posted ago by Ham_Sandwich77 [M] ago by Ham_Sandwich77 +39 / -59

Per the sidebar rules. Racism isn't welcome here. Take that shit somewhere else.

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ElectricCircusDJ 57 points ago +57 / -0

I was told by Reddit mods it was racist to point out how the black community glorifies thug culture and as a result is more involved in gun crime while criticizing politicians who target legal law abiding gun owners.

Also labeled racist by the Reddit mods for pointing out how black men are over represented as perpetrators of human trafficking.

Of course when I challenged them I was told to prove my theory with stats but that cannot be done easily because keeping and publishing race based crime data was banned because it was deemed racist.

Is this considered racism on here as well?

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RedPillary 8 points ago +8 / -0

And really you can eliminate the female population of those demographics

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Onethirty62 9 points ago +9 / -0

I don’t think it should be. There is a difference between saying “black people are responsible for a majority of violence” vs saying “I hate black people because they are violent.”

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CanadianRighty 7 points ago +7 / -0

Facts are racist

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Onethirty62 2 points ago +2 / -0

If you’re not trolling, you’re an idiot

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throwaway152 52 points ago +52 / -0

I'm a lawyer, and I'm bothered by the fact that racism isn't defined. Given that this is a rule, and given that the definition has dramatically different meaning, largely based on political affiliation, isn't it reasonable that you add a clear and objective definition of what constitutes racism? I mean some people define racism as almost anything a white person says, or even just existing. Others like the webster's definition, which is a global negative attribution made against a race. Other's use a definition somewhere in the middle where you need to say something potentially negative about another person's race, but it can only be done by certain races and not others (ie only whites can be racist).

You cannot arbitrarily define what is racism, as this is largely why a number of people left reddit to join this sub.** I think the rule is 100% fair, and I agree with it, but without defining what it is, you basically get to arbitrarily ban people just like happened to all of us from r/canada. **

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TragicOptimistic 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exist as a white person. Especially male. Oh, and also have opinions about stuff

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Itsoktobewite 10 points ago +10 / -0

Love the sarcasm.

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evolenmity 26 points ago +26 / -0

The Libtard version of racism or the actual? Stating facts that differentiate races is considered racism. I have said this before. We need 2 different words for the accusation in hatred and for the facts.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [M] [S] -11 points ago +16 / -27

We speak english here, not intersectional marxist.

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brutanana_dilewski 31 points ago +31 / -0

Your boy Erin speaks that language very well.

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TragicOptimistic 5 points ago +5 / -0

That's racism!

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JuanTitor 22 points ago +22 / -0

Piling on to what the rest have spoken, the issue is the nebulous definition of racism. Nowadays, racism is an intentionally vague term used to beat down any unwanted and uncomfortable information and ideas. Bring up MLK Jr. to support rational ideas, and get called racist for appropriating black ideas for racist causes; this is not an exception, this is the norm for use of the word.

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TragicOptimistic 20 points ago +21 / -1

Can I talk about Canada's immigration problem and the races the mostly make up those problems?

Also I'm female and I see rampant sexism and disrespectful words towards women in here everyday and it's not like the mod team cares about these attacks on women, but you know, were not supposed to be racist and all. Wtf man?

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TragicOptimistic 5 points ago +6 / -1

Dude, there's a bunch posts on here calling women whores and other stuff. But that doesn't get flagged by the mods even though we're not supposed to be racist. It just seems like a double standard that I'm pointing out. I don't care if you're critiquing women but insults like slut and whore and calling us bitches is not nice or welcoming.

Being a conservative is hard when men treat us like shit collectively because they just lump us together with all the progressive women. I thought conservative dudes were supposed to be all traditional and shit, but that doesn't mean verbally abuse my gender on every single post. I didn't fucking choose to be born with a Vagina. Also I don't give a fuck about whether it's journeyman or journeyperson, that's some petty bullshit. Just leave words how they are. I'm sorry I'm swearing like a sailor, it's not very ladylike I'm just upset.

I just want to feel welcome here too and not like some pariah just because my gender has a reputation of spreading their legs and being feminist (cancer) and making really illogical points. Smart women exist and conservative women exist. So be more fucking respectful, all of you.

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TragicOptimistic 1 point ago +3 / -2

It's just that if you all have wives how can you say that shit about women. Do you men love your wives If you can say such derogatory things about women? It really emphasizes that men here don't see women as anything more than lesser than them and sex toys. I've been told by many guys if I so much as joke about men I'm a sexist, but I'm the fragile one? No I'm just asking for respect. My gender is by no means perfect but you don't see us all going around here and insulting dudes at every opportunity.

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TragicOptimistic 3 points ago +3 / -0

I have a great personality. Why don't you actually have a conversation with me and you'll find out about it. Or better read my post history

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TragicOptimistic 1 point ago +2 / -1

They shouldn't if they have wives they love.

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hell yeah polygamy ?

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

You too ?

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh I'm an advocate for free speech too. And I'm not asking the mods to ban and block people that say rude shit about women but I've been trying to point out the double standard that they want to censor racism but ignore rude comments about gender. I fully support free speech and I've never asked the mods to ban or block anyone whose made awful comments about women but it doesn't mean I have to agree with them or like them.

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh my gosh I love this comment ?

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

I did say something when I saw it, doesn't matter, my comments were ignored. I specifically posted my original comment to shine light on the hypocrisy of the mod team. I don't care that much, but it's nice to feel welcome here for sure.

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't give a shit about protection but I can definitely say I don't like that kind of behaviour and it's rude. You don't see me actively trying to censor it or getting you banned. The whole point of me making this post was to point out the hypocrisy of the mod team here.

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TragicOptimistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Me too, when they deserve it. Undeserving though it's kind of shitty.

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TragicOptimistic 0 points ago +3 / -3

Does "fuck you" also sound like something a woman would say?

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

I prefer men anyway it's all good ?

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TragicOptimistic 2 points ago +2 / -0

True. I deleted it haha. But yeah fuck that guy.

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HappyMulbear 19 points ago +19 / -0

The Fuhrer has spoken

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] -11 points ago +3 / -14

As this forum goes down the shitter with tighter and tighter moderation, most people may as well go back to reddit

Anyone who has a problem with racism not being allowed can go back to reddit, or 4chan, or stormfront, or just go fuck themselves. Threatening that the racists might leave if I don't let them be racist is like threatening me with a good time. By all means, please. They should leave and go somewhere else.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [M] [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Ham ruined the site by going against what 99% of the users wanted.

No, YOU PEOPLE ruined the site by infecting it, chasing away all the decent human beings, and now that you've killed the host you're moving on to look for another victim.

You are a fucking disease. and I'm the cure. Fuck off and die. Don't come back either.

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TragicOptimistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

Where can we go?

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Ham_Sandwich77 [M] [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Most of the interesting people have left long ago.

If your idea of "interesting" is racist, by all means, go join them.

They're cracking down on the more subtle stuff

Show me where in the rules it EVER said "subtle" racism was permitted.

for their own personal political reasons.

Interesting. I made no comment about parties anywhere in this discussion. All I said was "No racism". If you're inferring that this is about the PPC, then that's a connection you made all on your own. What does that tell you about your party?

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TexasNorth 14 points ago +14 / -0

I've never understood the reason why people need to be overtly racist on the internet. Subtle racism is so much funnier.

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Reeenorseman 14 points ago +14 / -0

Cocksuckers still can't define what is racist.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [M] [S] -10 points ago +2 / -12

You know who likes to play shell games with the definition of "racism"?

Leftists who want to define everything they as "racism" and white nationalists who want to obfuscate their actual racism.

If you want to know what the definition of racism is, you have only to consult a dictionary. Like I already said, we speak english here, not intersectional marxist gobbledygook.


rac·ism

/ˈrāˌsizəm/

noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [M] [S] -14 points ago +3 / -17

How about this: If you want to play bullshit mealy-mouthed shell games, you'll find yourself on the wrong side of this.

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TooheyWasWrong 3 points ago +3 / -0

If the above aren’t allowed, then we should ban posts tagged with the “religion of peace” flair

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AlaskanTyrant 13 points ago +13 / -0

I don't think this reminder is gonna do much. The biggest breaker of that rule keeps just coming back.

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X-Nemesis 11 points ago +11 / -0

Define Racism please?

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Bluverish 9 points ago +9 / -0

what was the post that turned you gay?

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heisthestorm 7 points ago +7 / -0

Get fucked, I’ll say what I want when I want. If you view something as “racism” that’s your issue to deal with. Quit being reddit, ya faggot.

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Itsoktobewite 2 points ago +2 / -0

Prudent

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SuddenlyClintoned 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm 100% against racism.
Everybody else is correct, however. That needs a definition. And not a textbook one with loose terminology.

Using the N word? Course à bad idea. Beyond that, you need to make it clear.

Is racism to you:

  • Speaking disparagingly of a race without any facts relevant to the subject matter?
  • Speaking disparagingly of a race with facts relevant to the subject matter?
  • Focusing (mainly) on subject matter reflecting poorly on a race, or someone of a race?
  • Sharing subject matter reflecting poorly on a race, or someone of a race?
  • etc.

Personally, for me, its bullet point 1. Speaking with facts is legitimate critique, not racism.

It's important to allow such discussion.
Per example: Speaking as to how much crime migrants/blacks commit as opposed to other immigrants or native population is important for our future and being able to admit a problem exists is a baseline to solve prevent and solve such problems.

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Canapeder 2 points ago +2 / -0

This OP is such a fag it's unreal.

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X-Nemesis 2 points ago +2 / -0

Virtue Signaling is what this is about.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not sure if you've been paying attention but I'm the one who opened this forum up. And the rules are the same here as they were on reddit. If you don't like it you can fuck off back to 4chan or stormfront or whenever rock you crawled out from under.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

They’re racist towards us, so should we just cower?

You can't think of ANY other way to confront racism directed at you than to just be racist in return? Are you fujcking retarded?

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who's comment are you responding to?

That guy is trying to argue that the best way to fight racism is with more racism. That's fucking retarded. Nobody actually believes that. That's just what racists tell themselves to excuse their stupid beliefs.

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

LOL it's a MASSIVE problem on this forum. And you're a fuckign idiot for pretending it isn't.

Go look at the sticked mod threads that are filled top to bottom with meltdowns from people who are mad because they were told they can't be racist here.

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TragicOptimistic 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's the same principle as fight fire with fire. It works

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EmporerTrudeau420 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fuck white people

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Jesseedawn 1 point ago +1 / -0

What do you mean by racism? Since everything is subjective now

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Ham_Sandwich77 [S] -9 points ago +3 / -12

That's why I've stopped recruiting elsewhere on social media. There's no sense in drawing new traffic here if the decent people are going to leave as soon as they see all the racism, and the only ones who'll stay are more racists.

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