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DoggyDawg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good chart, but bad math…

62.4% more likely

12.9% more likely

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Bannonmeharder [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

So your saying it doesn’t work ?

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DoggyDawg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Just saying that Minnesota Department of Public Health can't even do math. If they stuck to the same format, it would be:

1.76X instead of 0.6X

1.13X instead of 0.9X

Even when vaccines are clearly not working, they're misrepresenting it. I'm sure they know how to do math and are doing this on purpose.

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tuchodi -5 points ago +3 / -8

Thanks to U/1CUnurse who pointed out that this image does not show unvaccinated.kids as a separate group.

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Urallfucked -7 points ago +1 / -8

So did you uh, adjust for the margin of error of dead unvaxxed who can no longer be infected? Are unvaxxed their own category or are they being added as outliers to affect the data?

Higher chances of being re infected literally means just more likely to survive infection.

Higher susceptibility to the same amount of rona would mean something, but that's not what this proves.

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Bannonmeharder [S] 7 points ago +7 / -0

You dumb fuck. The only way anything makes sense in your twisted world is if the jabs were necessary

It’s nothing more than a bad flu and you are clinging to a fake emergency because it some how makes you feel like you matter. Because. You “did your part”. It’s time now for people like you to go fuck yourselves. We don’t want to co exist with you anymore. You have shown to repeatedly promote fraud and harm. You have shown that you only parrot mainstream propaganda and that no matter what evidence you are shown it won’t matter because you are part of the culture of death. You may not even know it, but you are.
You are a fucking joke. Remember to please take video of the repeated injections you are willing to take. And please take as many as possible to prove how safe they are.
The onus is on people like you that promote others to play Russian roulette. Nobody but a fucking idiot is still afraid of the scamdemic/plandemic that you mental midgets still cling too.
We will never forget the people like you who we clearly asked just to leave us alone but you will not relent with your lies and aggression.

You basically promote assault/battery and murder.
I would love to see you tout your bullshit in public. You should record yourself telling people that they should listen to the experts and take unlimited boosters.
The reality would be too much for you

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Urallfucked -7 points ago +1 / -8

I came across a saying the other day.. "Every Conservative accusation is a confession" This reply is rife with projection and cognitive dissonance, and I hope you actually take the time to process what I have to say.

"The only way anything makes sense in your twisted world is if the jabs were necessary" That's true. If the jabs were even a little necessary, and not taking them left you at great risk for absolutely no reason, I would make sense - wouldn't I?

"It's nothing more than a bad flu" You know, the flu does kill people every year. And people do get the flu shot. People in health care need to get the shot even as intern students because their close contact means that they actually probably might die or become severely ill if they don't get the shot. The flu shot is only 50% effective generally, if you didn't know. And people still do it even though it hurts, you can feel icky or whatever - maybe it'll give you autism or whatever the russian disinfo bots are spreading these days.

Covid has been killing people. Infants as young as 4 have actually died. Old enough for memories, old enough for covid. Teenagers actually have died. Why the absolute FUCK would we not give them any chance their immune systems have to fight off a virus that can be found in all four corners of the world now in multiple mutations? If more people have studied it, and understnad it, and if you're doing anything other than the scientific method to ascertain truth then just.. stop it. get some help.

You have shown to repeatedly promote fraud and harm. You basically promote assault/battery and murder.

Wow that sounds a lot like promoting something that would put you at undue risk for no reason. Like going unvaxxed?

This data's not 14 days old yet. Please tell me how I'm living in the twisted world?

Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are • 1.6 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series. • 3.3 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 12-34 year-olds who have completed the primary series. Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are • 1.7 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series. • 3.7 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 35 - 64 year-olds who have completed the primary series. Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are • 2.2 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series. 4 • 3.6 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series. • 3 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with 65+ year-olds who have completed the primary series.

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Bannonmeharder [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

Get fucked you jab pushing shill

I’ve personally seen many harms from the jab and hardly anyone sick from the so called virus you are so afraid of.

For you to seriously keep Pushing jabs is disgusting. You are a fucking clown. If the jabs are so safe , maybe you should take repeated doses on camera to prove your point.
Nothing you say will change the fact that the jab is harming people at an alarming rate and yet fuck heads like you will come up with some bullshit reason why an experimental gene therapy was necessary It’s not a vaccine

It doesn’t stop transmission

It reverse transcribes your DNA

The more jabs you take the worse off you will be You know this and still promote harm to others.

Assholes like you will justify killing children to promote your agenda.

Ignore all the still births you fucking coward Ignore the 14 healthy young doctors that suddenly died this year after their jabs.
The truth will come out and fuckheads like you will continue to be the enemy.

You will be easily seen as some scared masked up prick who will be trying to deny people a normal life until the succumb to playing Russian roulette with a needle.

There is no data that says it’s safe or effective Get fucked you piece of shit.

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Urallfucked -5 points ago +1 / -6

Get triggered idiot

Enjoy dying on your special little hill

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Bannonmeharder [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Enjoy the side effects of intentionally jamming mystery juice not your body. You destroyed your body and now you want others to join you. You are basically a cultist. Remember to video and post act subsequent injection and keep us updated on how your AIDS is shaping up.
Feels much like Tuchodi trying to shill. I assume you are just using a different account so you can say one person on this forum agrees with your toxic shit.

Triggered? Nah. Telling you to get fucked rolls off of my young. It’s easy at this point. You had two years to prove you weren’t an ignorant idiot. You failed miserably

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Urallfucked -6 points ago +1 / -7

I'm basically a cultist. Me and 12.5 billion shots of "mystery juice" worth. Of stuff that's proven to make you live longer, and avoiding will increase chance of death by 300%. Sure buddy.

Honestly look at your words in the every accusation is a confession lens it's insane how you don't see it. Like maybe you're satire idk honestly it's probable that you're just content with having a personality that's analogous with the party that sells third world living conditions on the common man in order for businesses to be able to pay politicians more in bribes and also fuck the environment for no reason even when it costs more and gives no benefit. You do you bro. Sure the ladies are crawling over themselves to message you first on bumble, unless you actively pretend to be a normal rational person to lure them within striking distance like some conservatives have to do.

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VaxedAndContagious1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Why are you refusing the booster Ultrafucked? Why are you refusing to follow your own TV experts??

Why are you so afraid of the third mRNA injection?

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VaxedAndContagious1 3 points ago +3 / -0

Everything you’ve ever posted is copied from Reddit or CTV news. You don’t have the ability to even question the TV experts who’ve been repeatedly wrong or question their flawed science. You just do as your told.

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Bannonmeharder [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Found the leftist/cultist. You are obviously ok with killing and maiming children by injecting them with mystery sauce that destroys their hearts and nervous system. You are one sick fuck. Keep trying to rationalize your disgusting behaviours. There is is no benefit to fucking with your DNA but here you are trying to normalize playing Russian roulette.

You are ignoring that there have been thousands of deaths and injuries from the jab which was given to all you idiots with out informed consent. That’s coercive That’s a crime. Keep that shit up. Please again. Videos of you taking these injections for proof that they are safe. Or Basically shut the fuck up. Nobody on his forum agrees with you except you alter ego Tuchodi.

You deserve what is coming to you. Enjoy the fact that you destroyed your body. But seriously stop promoting harm and fraud to others.

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Bannonmeharder [S] 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fuck are you a stooge.

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Pegases 7 points ago +7 / -0

covid has the same mortality rate as the flu in children, effectively zero

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VaxedAndContagious1 5 points ago +5 / -0

WHY ARE YOU REFUSING THE BOOSTER ULTRAFUCKED?

Why are you refusing to follow your own science? We can’t wait until Trudeau mandates the 4th and 5th booster, you will be forced to submit to more RNA altering injections with unknown fatality data. lol

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tuchodi -7 points ago +2 / -9

If anyone is wondering what this means I urge you to go to follow OP's link to the source of their picture: https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/stats/vbt.html#vbtadult1

You'll find a number of graphs that can be adjusted to show the ratios between vaccinated and unvaccinated people for a variety of scenarios: age, cases, hospitalizations and deaths.There are 25 different pictures like the one in OP's post if you cycle through all the options.

Twenty four of them show the advantages of being vaccinated.

OP has chosen to show you the 25th. It involves case counts, which do not include the people who aren't sick enough to get tested.

Do not take my word for this. Go there and check those graphs yourself.

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DoggyDawg 2 points ago +3 / -1

He was specifically talking about kids.

You deflected. Let me deflect. When talking about how well the vaccine works, you also need to take into account vaccine injuries and whether the vaccine might cause deaths from things other than covid (all-cause mortality).

The risk/benefit of Covid vaccines is arguably most accurately measured by comparing the all-cause mortality rate of vaccinated against unvaccinated, since it not only avoids most confounders relating to case definition but also fulfils the WHO/CDC definition of "vaccine effectiveness" for mortality.

What do you know... vaccinated are dying at a higher rate. But at least some of them are not dying of covid, amirite?

And, these stats are only up to September, 2021. It's worse now. And, this does not even include vaccine injuries that devastate many peoples' lives, some of whom probably wish they were dead rather than deal with their new vaccine injuries.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

He was specifically talking about kids

And they chose the numbers for "Cases" which - since Omicron infection is relatively mild and spreads so fast - are impossible to count. Furthermore there are four options for "Cases" and the other three show the advantage of being vaccinated.

They could have chosen "Hospitalizations". It's much closer to a real-world indication because parents tend to take their kids in when they're really sick. If you take the trouble to look at the "Hospitalization" graphs for kids all four options show the advantage of being vaccinated.

So out of the eight options for kids they chose the only one that fits their narrative and never mentioned that the other data was presented.

Let me deflect.

They have doubts about Figure 4, the one you like:

"However, because this group includes such a wide age range it is possible that this potentially extremely disturbing statistic remains strongly confounded by age. Therefore, without a finer age categorisation it is impossible to tell what the actual difference in all-cause deaths might be. Why the age confounding was not apparent in weeks 1 to 5 when only the most vulnerable were being vaccinated remains unexplained. Where age groups are narrower, 60-69, 70-79 and 80+, the age confounding effects are somewhat mitigated, and the data appear to show (in each of these age groups) a lower all-cause mortality for the vaccinated, compared to the unvaccinated. See Figures 5, 6 and 7. "

And Figures 5, 6, and 7 all show the advantage of being vaccinated.

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DoggyDawg 1 point ago +1 / -0

So, young people skew the stats, eh? Damn young people dying because of the covid vaccines ruins the stats for everybody.

Look at the charts, though...See the trajectory? The trajectory is going in the wrong direction. These stats are up to Sept, 2021. Recent stats will be worse. We won't see the recent stats for a few more months, at least.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

young people dying because of the covid vaccines

You haven't presented any evidence of that yet. Neither has OP.

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DoggyDawg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Except for that stats that you specifically pointed out.

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tuchodi -7 points ago +1 / -8

They are not complaining about young people.: "Therefore, without a finer age categorisation it is impossible to tell what the actual difference in all-cause deaths might be."

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DoggyDawg 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you even comprehend what this means? Too many young people dying skew the stats for the rest of the age groups.