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tuchodi -5 points ago +2 / -7

A) You figure they were all vaccinated, eh?

B) How many more would have died without the vaccines?

June 23, 2022 "Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination." https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099%2822%2900320-6/fulltext

DoggyDawg 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is modeling. It’s not official stats. Kind of like Ontario Science Table using modeling to publish misleading stats that were so way off from official Ontario government stats.

You have to be sure that the parameters that are input into your modeling software are correct, first of all.

Dozens of assumptions were based on this modeling study, like this one for example:

we assume that all vaccinated individuals have a 50% reduction in infectiousness for breakthrough infections.

50% reduction in infectiousness is way off.

Still, so many vaccinated people continue to die from covid. It’s too bad. The vaccines had so much promise.

tuchodi -6 points ago +1 / -7

Do you have even the tiniest little link to back up your opinions and quotes? That would be so nice.

Still, so many vaccinated people continue to die from covid

Still can't accept that it isn't 100% perfect, eh?

VaxedAndContagious1 4 points ago +4 / -0