Folks, don't get your medical advice from the drunk at the end of the bar or anonymous people on social media.
Get your advice from scientists. The virus does not get around by itself. it travels in droplets of moisture that are many times larger than the virus (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/), and masks are pretty good at catching those droplets.
The scientists say, for example:
2022 Oct 22 "we challenged different respirators and medical masks on a standardized dummy head with a bioaerosol containing MS2 bacteriophages as virus surrogates. In our experiments, FFP2 respirators showed the highest filtration efficacy 94 ± 4 (SD) % followed by medical masks 93 ± 3 (SD) % and KN95 respirators 90 ± 7 (SD) %. Nevertheless, we found no statistically significant difference between respirators and medical masks in terms of provided protection against infective aerosols. Our findings indicate that both respirators and medical masks provide a high as-worn bioaerosol protection efficacy against virus containing aerosols, and therefore, a very high protection against airborne diseases. Considering the higher comfort, better availability, and lower price of medical masks in contrast to respirators, it is recommendable to use medical face masks especially in low risk situations and in general public." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36317154/
If you're going to claim this hill are you going to do everything else he says too? Or do you just believe him on this one supposed (no date, no mention of covid) point?
Folks, Dr Fauci is only to be blindly and unquestioningly obeyed when hes advocating against freedoms otherwise its 'teh skexxors'. No I dont understand the irony, folks
You are ignorant. You promote harm and fraud to others. That’s all you have done for two years. You willingly ignore that your narrative has collapsed.
Unsafe and unnecessary measures are all you promote.
You are sick
You would be worth listening to if you weren't some anonymous nobody on social media arguing against virtually every public health and infectious disease expert in the world.
Don't get your covid information from trolls and bots on social media folks. Get it from experts:
Are you fucking retarded? Top of the screen in big white letters:
"March 2020: Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr Jon LaPook about Covid-19."
Here's 60 minutes themselves later acknowledging Fauci's original mask comments and pathetically trying to rationalize or explain them away after the mask issue became politicized: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=965812513924726
Anyone can do that. I assume that in this case it was David Llewellyn, for the benefit of his 49 subscribers.
But I'm quibbling.
So in March 2020 Trump was saying “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero”, aerosol transmission wasn't established, global deaths were at about 50,000, and mask production had not ramped up so they were being saved for medical personnel,
Two and a half years later masks are available, aerosol transmission is acknowledged, over 6 million people are dead, 640 million people have tested positive (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/), and healthcare facilities are crumbling to the point where many people with serious non-covid conditions can't get timely treatment.
But some people seem to be driven loopy by the fact that they can't be given a guarantee that they won't be affected. They're burying their heads in the sand, pointing back two and a half years, and sniveling "But they lied to me".
"Intelligence is the ability to change your mind when presented with new information" - somebody on the Internet.
These masks don't catch your breath's aerosolised water vapours, breathing out in the cold demonstrates this clearly. The science pre covid was medical masks don't do squat to combat the spread of a respiratory virus.
P.S. I already know more than 10% get through, I was just trying to give you a best case scenario because what you are advocating for is a pointless waste of energy
do you not understand that it takes a ballpark number of a viral load to infect people. lets say a face diaper mask only lets through 10 percent of a viral load of one breath in close proximity to you, do you get sick. If the answer is yes, then they are useless even if they 'do something'
Masks create a harmful immunological response. Masks are to prevent bacteria not viruses. Twochodes is a fucking retard.
Wish I could show this at work.
Folks, don't get your medical advice from the drunk at the end of the bar or anonymous people on social media.
Get your advice from scientists. The virus does not get around by itself. it travels in droplets of moisture that are many times larger than the virus (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7579175/), and masks are pretty good at catching those droplets.
The scientists say, for example:
2022 Oct 22 "we challenged different respirators and medical masks on a standardized dummy head with a bioaerosol containing MS2 bacteriophages as virus surrogates. In our experiments, FFP2 respirators showed the highest filtration efficacy 94 ± 4 (SD) % followed by medical masks 93 ± 3 (SD) % and KN95 respirators 90 ± 7 (SD) %. Nevertheless, we found no statistically significant difference between respirators and medical masks in terms of provided protection against infective aerosols. Our findings indicate that both respirators and medical masks provide a high as-worn bioaerosol protection efficacy against virus containing aerosols, and therefore, a very high protection against airborne diseases. Considering the higher comfort, better availability, and lower price of medical masks in contrast to respirators, it is recommendable to use medical face masks especially in low risk situations and in general public." https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36317154/
Would you consider Dr. Fauchi as scientist?
https://youtu.be/23hvLiA2akE
No date. No mention of covid. Sketchy.
If you're going to claim this hill are you going to do everything else he says too? Or do you just believe him on this one supposed (no date, no mention of covid) point?
Folks, Dr Fauci is only to be blindly and unquestioningly obeyed when hes advocating against freedoms otherwise its 'teh skexxors'. No I dont understand the irony, folks
Well, he does know more about communicable diseases and public health policy than you do.
You are ignorant. You promote harm and fraud to others. That’s all you have done for two years. You willingly ignore that your narrative has collapsed.
Unsafe and unnecessary measures are all you promote. You are sick
You would be worth listening to if you weren't some anonymous nobody on social media arguing against virtually every public health and infectious disease expert in the world.
Don't get your covid information from trolls and bots on social media folks. Get it from experts:
See "General Prevention Measures" at the U.S. National Institutes of Health https://files.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/guidelines/covid19treatmentguidelines.pdf
See https://www.quebec.ca/en/health/advice-and-prevention/accidents-injuries-and-diseases-prevention/steps-limiting-spread-respiratory-infectious-diseases-1
See http://www.bccdc.ca/Health-Info-Site/Documents/COVID-19_vaccine/COVID19_personal_toolkit.pdf
See https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/coronavirus/prevention.html
See https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopkins/view/Johns_Hopkins_ABX_Guide/540747/all/Coronavirus_COVID_19__SARS_CoV_2_#4.5
Well, Dr Mengele, Dr Goebbels and Dr Harold Shipman know more about medicine than you TwoChodes, so that makes them right.
Mengele and Shipman were general practitioners, Goebbels' PhD was in literature (that's how much research V&C1 does folks).
Like V&C1 they have little to no expertise in infectious diseases.
This is true. But is he telling the truth? Don’t just blindly believe anything a smarter person than you tells you.
Well, he's saying pretty much the same thing as virtually every other public health / infectious disease expert in the world.
You can believe they're all lying to you but that says nothing about them and everything about you.
Are you fucking retarded? Top of the screen in big white letters:
"March 2020: Dr. Anthony Fauci talks with Dr Jon LaPook about Covid-19."
Here's 60 minutes themselves later acknowledging Fauci's original mask comments and pathetically trying to rationalize or explain them away after the mask issue became politicized: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=965812513924726
Anyone can do that. I assume that in this case it was David Llewellyn, for the benefit of his 49 subscribers.
But I'm quibbling.
So in March 2020 Trump was saying “You have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero”, aerosol transmission wasn't established, global deaths were at about 50,000, and mask production had not ramped up so they were being saved for medical personnel,
Two and a half years later masks are available, aerosol transmission is acknowledged, over 6 million people are dead, 640 million people have tested positive (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/), and healthcare facilities are crumbling to the point where many people with serious non-covid conditions can't get timely treatment.
But some people seem to be driven loopy by the fact that they can't be given a guarantee that they won't be affected. They're burying their heads in the sand, pointing back two and a half years, and sniveling "But they lied to me".
"Intelligence is the ability to change your mind when presented with new information" - somebody on the Internet.
These masks don't catch your breath's aerosolised water vapours, breathing out in the cold demonstrates this clearly. The science pre covid was medical masks don't do squat to combat the spread of a respiratory virus.
What size are the vapour droplets that the virus occupies?
What size are the vapour droplets that get caught and make your mask damp?
What size are the vapour droplets that get through the mask when you can see your breath?
Is it possible some droplets get through and others don't?
if only 10 percent got through would you still get sick?
You sound like one of those "anything that doesn't give me 100% protection is useless" people.
Twochodes thinks wearing a condom with holes in it is at least better than not wearing one. Lolz
If you're putting a condom on your face you're doing it wrong.
no but it speaks to the efficacy of those masks.
P.S. I already know more than 10% get through, I was just trying to give you a best case scenario because what you are advocating for is a pointless waste of energy
If you aren't saying the masks are useless, then how is mask use "a pointless waste of energy?
do you not understand that it takes a ballpark number of a viral load to infect people. lets say a face diaper mask only lets through 10 percent of a viral load of one breath in close proximity to you, do you get sick. If the answer is yes, then they are useless even if they 'do something'