you don't want to debate about abortion because you know you're in the wrong about everything. It's a fact that abortion bans make more women die.
[From 2019 to 2022, the rate of maternal mortality cases in Texas rose by 56%, compared with just 11% nationwide during the same time period, according to an analysis by the Gender Equity Policy Institute. The nonprofit research group scoured publicly available reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and shared the analysis exclusively with NBC News.
“There’s only one explanation for this staggering difference in maternal mortality,” said Nancy L. Cohen, president of the GEPI. “All the research points to Texas’ abortion ban as the primary driver of this alarming increase.”
“Texas, I fear, is a harbinger of what’s to come in other states,” she said.
Among Hispanic women, the rate of women dying while pregnant, during childbirth or soon after increased from 14.5 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 2019 to 18.9 in 2022. Rates among white women nearly doubled — from 20 per 100,000 to 39.1. And Black women, who historically have higher chances of dying while pregnant, during childbirth or soon after, saw their rates go from 31.6 to 43.6 per 100,000 live births.While maternal mortality spiked overall during the pandemic, women dying while pregnant or during childbirth rose consistently in Texas following the state’s ban on abortion, according to the Gender Equity Policy Institute.
“If you deny women abortions, more women are going to be pregnant, and more women are going to be forced to carry a pregnancy to term,” Cohen said.
The researchers found that states with the higher score of abortion policy composite index had a 7% increase in total maternal mortality compared with states with lower abortion policy composite index. Among individual abortion policies, states with a licensed physician requirement had a 51% higher total maternal mortality and a 35% higher maternal mortality (i.e. a death during pregnancy or within 42 days of being pregnant), and restrictions on state Medicaid funding for abortion was associated with a 29% higher total maternal mortality.
“It is critically important that state-level policies related to women’s access to comprehensive reproductive health care services, including abortion, are evidence-based and guided by the primary goal of improving women’s health and reducing maternal mortality,”said Dovile Vilda, research assistant professor at the Department of Social, Behavioral and Population Sciences and a lead author on the study. “Our study provides evidence that decreasing the number of abortion restrictions across the states may reduce incidence of death during pregnancy and postpartum among all women in the US.”
you don't want to debate about abortion because you know you're in the wrong about everything.
Presumptuous. Outstanding of you to not only believe I'm "in the wrong about everything", but actually think I share your belief.... Which I suppose I'd be wrong about too?
“There’s only one explanation for this staggering difference in maternal mortality,” said Nancy L. Cohen
Shallow and arrogant take.
From 2019 to 2022, the rate of maternal mortality cases in Texas rose by 56%, compared with just 11% nationwide during the same time period
2019 to 2022 you say? Yeah, there couldn't possibly be other confounding variables in there, like, say, malicious agenda-driven medical malpractice that deprived unvaccinated from health care to help sell the lie. Actually I don't know if they did that in Texas but it sure was how things went down in my home province of BC.
But anyhow, it's not material to my argument, since it ignores the fact that even if it's true that the percentage of maternal deaths increase (which is truly a sad thing and I don't want this to be misinterpreted as lacking in compassion for these women), for every woman saved from an untimely death by your method (mass acceptance, enablement, and dare I say celebration of abortion) there must be untold numbers of unborn babies murdered in the womb. Have you considered the possibility that these discrepancies in healthcare outcomes could be addressed in ways other than the mass slaughter of the unborn? Or that health outcomes are improved for those who didn't get an abortion but would have were a ban not in effect? Or that in the long term, with such a ban in effect, people will adapt and change their behaviour, and that many people see these changes as changes for the better?
Our study provides evidence that decreasing the number of abortion restrictions across the states may [emphasis mine] reduce incidence of death during pregnancy and postpartum among all women in the US
Well you know what? It may not. That's an awfully tepid argument considering the abomination against life that you're trying to implement. I wonder how many lives the ban saved.
To put the numbers in perspective, I made some rough calculations using the number of live births in Texas in 2022 (around 400,000) and an upper estimate of a 0.04% maternal mortality rate (40 per 100,000). What we're left with is approximately 160 maternal deaths in Texas for the year. Round it up to 200 and that's what your entire argument is predicated on; a tenuous link between those 200 deaths (and let's say the 71 that could be considered excess deaths according to the 56% increase claim) and a ban against abortion.
Unfortunately for you, your argument ignores positive outcomes which aren't captured by changes in maternal death statistics, uses stats from a systemically volatile time period in health care, completely disregards the lives of the unborn (a sentiment we're sadly used to seeing on your side, as appalling as it is), assumed a trend where there may be none, and ultimately falls to shambles along with your hysterical claim that "women will die in droves [because of Trump]" even though we've established that his election has no bearing on any of this whatsoever.
you don't want to debate about abortion because you know you're in the wrong about everything. It's a fact that abortion bans make more women die.
[From 2019 to 2022, the rate of maternal mortality cases in Texas rose by 56%, compared with just 11% nationwide during the same time period, according to an analysis by the Gender Equity Policy Institute. The nonprofit research group scoured publicly available reports from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and shared the analysis exclusively with NBC News.
“There’s only one explanation for this staggering difference in maternal mortality,” said Nancy L. Cohen, president of the GEPI. “All the research points to Texas’ abortion ban as the primary driver of this alarming increase.”
“Texas, I fear, is a harbinger of what’s to come in other states,” she said.
Among Hispanic women, the rate of women dying while pregnant, during childbirth or soon after increased from 14.5 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 2019 to 18.9 in 2022. Rates among white women nearly doubled — from 20 per 100,000 to 39.1. And Black women, who historically have higher chances of dying while pregnant, during childbirth or soon after, saw their rates go from 31.6 to 43.6 per 100,000 live births.While maternal mortality spiked overall during the pandemic, women dying while pregnant or during childbirth rose consistently in Texas following the state’s ban on abortion, according to the Gender Equity Policy Institute.
“If you deny women abortions, more women are going to be pregnant, and more women are going to be forced to carry a pregnancy to term,” Cohen said.
Beyond the immediate dangers of pregnancy and childbirth, there is growing evidence that women living in states with strict abortion laws, such as Texas, are far more likely to go without prenatal care and much less likely to find an appointment with an OB-GYN.](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/texas-abortion-ban-deaths-pregnant-women-sb8-analysis-rcna171631) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/25/abortion-bans-healthcare-maternal-mortality https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-abortion-bans-deaths-agonies.html
https://sph.tulane.edu/study-finds-higher-maternal-mortality-rates-states-more-abortion-restrictions
The researchers found that states with the higher score of abortion policy composite index had a 7% increase in total maternal mortality compared with states with lower abortion policy composite index. Among individual abortion policies, states with a licensed physician requirement had a 51% higher total maternal mortality and a 35% higher maternal mortality (i.e. a death during pregnancy or within 42 days of being pregnant), and restrictions on state Medicaid funding for abortion was associated with a 29% higher total maternal mortality.
“It is critically important that state-level policies related to women’s access to comprehensive reproductive health care services, including abortion, are evidence-based and guided by the primary goal of improving women’s health and reducing maternal mortality,”said Dovile Vilda, research assistant professor at the Department of Social, Behavioral and Population Sciences and a lead author on the study. “Our study provides evidence that decreasing the number of abortion restrictions across the states may reduce incidence of death during pregnancy and postpartum among all women in the US.”
Presumptuous. Outstanding of you to not only believe I'm "in the wrong about everything", but actually think I share your belief.... Which I suppose I'd be wrong about too?
Shallow and arrogant take.
2019 to 2022 you say? Yeah, there couldn't possibly be other confounding variables in there, like, say, malicious agenda-driven medical malpractice that deprived unvaccinated from health care to help sell the lie. Actually I don't know if they did that in Texas but it sure was how things went down in my home province of BC.
But anyhow, it's not material to my argument, since it ignores the fact that even if it's true that the percentage of maternal deaths increase (which is truly a sad thing and I don't want this to be misinterpreted as lacking in compassion for these women), for every woman saved from an untimely death by your method (mass acceptance, enablement, and dare I say celebration of abortion) there must be untold numbers of unborn babies murdered in the womb. Have you considered the possibility that these discrepancies in healthcare outcomes could be addressed in ways other than the mass slaughter of the unborn? Or that health outcomes are improved for those who didn't get an abortion but would have were a ban not in effect? Or that in the long term, with such a ban in effect, people will adapt and change their behaviour, and that many people see these changes as changes for the better?
Well you know what? It may not. That's an awfully tepid argument considering the abomination against life that you're trying to implement. I wonder how many lives the ban saved.
To put the numbers in perspective, I made some rough calculations using the number of live births in Texas in 2022 (around 400,000) and an upper estimate of a 0.04% maternal mortality rate (40 per 100,000). What we're left with is approximately 160 maternal deaths in Texas for the year. Round it up to 200 and that's what your entire argument is predicated on; a tenuous link between those 200 deaths (and let's say the 71 that could be considered excess deaths according to the 56% increase claim) and a ban against abortion.
Unfortunately for you, your argument ignores positive outcomes which aren't captured by changes in maternal death statistics, uses stats from a systemically volatile time period in health care, completely disregards the lives of the unborn (a sentiment we're sadly used to seeing on your side, as appalling as it is), assumed a trend where there may be none, and ultimately falls to shambles along with your hysterical claim that "women will die in droves [because of Trump]" even though we've established that his election has no bearing on any of this whatsoever.
Each state decides. Not Trump. He's not doing anything. It's a non-issue as far Trump is concerned. Protest your state. You have a right to be heard.