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Kronder12 8 points ago +8 / -0

He can't help being old but he can help being fat. I want him to be restricted from public life based on his BMI. The higher his BMI the more he would be excluded from. Kind of a BMI social credit score. It would be good comeuppance for being a mandate fascist. Make him taste his own medicine.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

78 percent of all covid deaths and hospitalizations were people who were obese. Rather than look at themselves and lose weight the fat poltroons want to lower the risk and lower the strain on the health care system, which they cause, by forcing everyone else to take the jabb, regardless of the obvious risks. Fats like Tuchiody like to push vaxx mandates but they sure do not like Fat Mandates that would make them cut back on the donuts.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

There needs to be Weight Mandates - which I will name the Tuchodi Mandates in favor of our favorite Fats. Fats account for 78 percent of covid deaths and hospitalizations. Without fats there would be no strain on the health care system. We need to force them to do the socially responsible thing and lose weight by excluding them from restaurants (obviously), jobs, planes and taxing them extra for their gluttonous strain on the health care system.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), cystic fibrosis, diabetes, emphysema, epilepsy, high blood pressure, kidney disease, motor neurone disease (MND), multiple sclerosis (MS), neurofibromatosis, parkinson's disease, pneumonia, sleep apnea, ...

But you see, Fats, you are mixing (i assume intentionally) diseases over which you have little or no control with those that are caused by your gluttony. You thought it was okay to imprison, fine and ostracize me on the theory that my choice not to get vaxxed may have raised my risk of complications and thus put a further strain on the health care system. That's a shaky theory.

But your gluttony definitely raises your risk of covid complications and definitely puts a strain on the healthcare system. In fact you fats account for 78 percent of all hospitalizations and deaths, and remember that before they died those fats likely received the most expensive and resource intensive care in ICU. So your gluttony and selfish indulgence must be curbed by mandates. If you will not choose to act in a socially responsible way we must guide you towards the right behaviour by making the alternative less attractive than that donut.

Thus it is appropriate to exclude you from healthcare or at least tax you extra to make up for your disproportionate and WILFUL drain on the system. Furthermore, it is appropriate to fire you from jobs. As you are more likely to get sick from covid you should not place more drains on the health insurance. Plus the coercive effect of depriving you fats of a livelihood will make you choose to diet to keep it. And it goes without saying that excluding people with a high BMI from restaurants is good for them and good for society.

You see how the same arguments that you used to justify medical apartheid against me actually work better on you? Do you like it fats?

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

A person with comorbidities has a higher risk than a person without them.

Exactly. It is starting to sink in despite the tuchidiocy. You are having a moment of quasi clarity. This is good.

You fatties clog up the medical system and have only made it worse since covid. Your comorbidity of fatness is what led to most of the deaths and most of the hospitalization. You are a burden. Perhaps choose MAID

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

fat people are sick people - go evangelize some weight loss but start with yourself. Cholesterol also leads to a drop in IQ which explains the tuchidiocy.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

that unvaccinated people get sicker and die more often from covid

But you conveniently ignore the obvious. Does a vaxxed fattie have a lower risk than a healthy vaxxed person? The answer is yes, of course. The vaxx is not a magic bullet that makes all your other comorbidities and bad health choices irrelevant.

Even if you were right about that, unvaxxed and vaxxed, fatties are the ones who get really sick and sometimes die in both the vaxxed and unvaxxed groups. Healthy people who are unvaxxed rarely die from covid. Being vaxxed does not suddenly make the fatties at less risk. They remain at more risk than a healthy person, even if the vaxx does what you claim about lowering risk and mortality. So you are focusing on the wrong metric. You blame the unvaxxed when you should be looking in the mirror, if you can stand it.

The simple solution and logical solution would be for the authorities to recommend weight loss as a strategy for reducing personal risk and to unburden the health care system, both before and after covid. Your donut habit costs us everyone money.

And if the fatties can't do the right thing, then we need weight mandates which I will call the Tuchodi Mandates in honor of your obesity and stultifying blindness to its effects.

For by your logic we really should enforce weight mandates, maybe make public venues subject to weigh ins, you know, as a way to convince you to do the socially responsible thing. And we should definitely ban you from planes, trains and boats. Not only will that help the fatties make the right decision, but fatties make planes burn more fuel which is bad for the environment. Do the right thing Tuchiodi~

And it goes almost without saying that mandates that ban you from restaurants would save lives - both from coronaries and by unburdening the system that devotes disproportionate resources to covid complications among the jelly people. We really need to make this happen.

And since the health risks of obesity and the health benefits of maintaining a healthy weight are known, there really cannot be any argument against the Tuchodi Mandates based on unknown risks of an untested vaxx.

It's time for a fat apartheid for the good of us all! I bet you would not support this because you are a hypocrite.

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Kronder12 4 points ago +4 / -0

Actually you are just displaying your unsupported tuchidiotic opinion. Look at you trying to actually deny the obvious.

Lifestyle related illnesses, especially from addictions and obesity are the leading cause of hospitalization. You don't think diabetics put a strain on the system? You don't think people with heart conditions take up space?

Obesity even impacts covid. Fat covidians like you make up 78 percent of all hospitalizations and deaths. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

Talk about putting a strain on the health system! Maybe you should be segregated or denied health services or taxed more based on your BMI. Surely we should exclude you from restaurants for your own good and to keep you from stuffing your face and putting more weight on the health care system.

This my tuchioditc friend is a reductio ad absurdum argument to point out just how stupid and unjust your vaxx mandates are.

Note that just because you support the jabb does not absolve you for being a fat smoker. I bet my tax dollars have gone to pay for a lot of the health problems that you created for yourself.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Not quite. Statistics for the vaccinated / unvaccinated populations show that when you do get the virus the you will take up more healthcare systems resources than if you had been vaccinated.

If you followed your logic, you would be ranting against the fatties and the addicts (to booze, drugs, smoking or sugar) who take up most of the health care resources. Instead of being a vaxx evangelist you should be promoting healthy diet and exercise. Every one of your posts should be about that. After all, exercise and healthy eating have proven medical benefits and no downside. They even improve your odds of not dying or getting complications from covid since that is one of your concerns.

But I bet you fall into one or more of those categories so they get a pass. I am guessing a fat smoker.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tuchidiocy cannot be cured and there is no vaxx for it.

Btw I already gave you the stats and the supporting links including Canadian government websites but apparently that is not good enough for you because it conflicts with your programming. Unlike you I have a life and will not repeat myself.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Tuchidiot really is the perfect term for this creature, isn't it?

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's hardly correct even by the government's own statistics - adjusting for percentage of population of vaccinated versus unvaccinated, the vaccinated are being hospitalized in greater numbers and this is clear from the Ontario and BC official statistics. And this is before we find that they are playing with the numbers to make them less damning. For their purposes people with 1 vaxx dose or 2 vaxx doses but who get covid within 14 days of the last dose are treated as unvaxxed and counted among the vaxxed. By any logical approach those 2 groups should be counted separately as sui generis categories. Or a lesser evil would be to count them among the vaxxed since they have more in common with that group. They don't because 1 does actually increases the risk of death and hospitalization when you look at the statistics for that group.

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Kronder12 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yikes! It looks like BC has been overrun by Tuchidiots. I hope someone brings a successful Charter challenge.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

Tuchodic NPC bot needs a software upgrade. Its spouting tuchidiotic gibberish again.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

[Tuchiodotic blather. NPC bot is breaking down.]

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

Look at you! You're a martyr.

You vaxxer scum are vilely smug aren't you.

Because of the policies that you support, cheered on and enabled - I and others like me were:

  1. excluded from restaurants
  2. excluded from airplanes,ships,ferries and trains
  3. as a result of not being able to fly or take boats, were excluded from over one half of the country including all of Nunavut, Newfoundland and Labrador, Vancouver Island, all of Nothern Quebec, Northern Ontario, Northern Manitoba, and so on.
  4. excluded or fired from jobs
  5. excluded from attending various universities and courses

Yes we are martyrs for the truth against your vile tuchidocy of the vaccinators. 50 years later we are still hand wringing over the fact that Blacks were prevented from eating at a Woolworth's lunch counter and had to attend segregated schools in the Deep South, but you seem to think that doing the same thing now to another group of people, based on them having common sense, is okay.

I really do hope and expect that you will reap what you have planted in your body because only then will there be justice and a balancing of the scales for what you and your vile disgusting woke nazis have done. And I say woke nazis deliberately: you and your ilk have a smug delusion that you are the good guys when you are clearly not.

Nothing I say will pierce your shield of delusion until maybe you are sitting in the doctor's office and he tells you about that cancer on vaxx steroids.

As for your other statistics, you are still operating on the delusional assumption that me getting vaccinated would have in some way reduced their death rate. Since that is clearly not the case and even the vaxxers have moved on to the cope that the vaxx reduces death in the vaxxed, not that it reduced overall transmission, the basic premise and underpinning of your mandates and your hate are based on a lie that you cannot let go of because of your unabated tuchidiocy. There is no cure for that except vaids and vaxx cancer. Enjoy.

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Kronder12 7 points ago +7 / -0

Good job picking it apart.

Unfortunately studies like these are put out for the headline. It does not matter if they stand up to scrutiny. They are created for propaganda purposes and to give a veneer of legitimacy to their oppressive actions, in this case discrimination in the area of insurance.

Tuchidiots are going to tuchidiot no matter what.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

You are intelligent enough to find facts that marginally support your position but stop cold when they might contradict you. The issue of comorbidites and age as the primary factor in who dies is well known. Learn to google.

If not, here is a typical finding. You can try to attack this specific reference, but there are countless others.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

When analyzing the breakdown of deaths by age and condition [source], we can observe how, out of 15,230 confirmed deaths in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition (or for which it is unknown whether they had or did not have an underlying condition).

and

So far there has been 1 death every 1,166 people under 65 years old (compared to 1 death every 358 people in the general population). And 89% of the times, the person who died had one or more underlying medical conditions.

Clearly the deaths are not evenly distributed, being concentrated in older people and or people who have underlying conditions.

This is not a fuck you argument. This is a fuck you vaxxers argument. You fuckers had no right to set up a medical apartheid state, to deprive me of my constitutional and human rights, just because you were scared and could not make reasoned decisions. The measures you cheered on did nothing to protect this group. Vaxxines do not prevent them from catching it. If they really think it helps them they can go and get jabbed. But for the sake of this hysterical moral panic that you and your ilk perpetuate, you have traded the illusion of security for oppression and discrimination.

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

[Unsupported Tuchodic opinion]

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

now undergoing disciplinary hearings?

It is always the case with tyrannies that those who speak the truth are prosecuted. We are version 2.0 of Soviet Russia where dissidents were diagnosed as having a form of schizophrenia, the chief symptom of which was speaking out against the regime. Now we are not quite as ham fisted. Instead of sending people to the Gulag we destroy their professions and livelihoods or we deplatform them so that they cannot be heard and then the tuchidiots can talk about consensus among the profession.

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Kronder12 6 points ago +6 / -0

Covid-19 presents a negligible risk for adults younger than the age of 60"

You say that as if he were wrong. The risk of death if you are not old, or do not have comorbidities, is negligible. Much less than 1 percent. He is absolutely right.

Even if 200k died, which is probably a very suspect number, you as usual confuse prevalence with individual risk. It is not a big number considering how many people got infected and survived.

As an analogy - if you give peanut butter to a billion people you will almost certainly get several thousands dying of severe allergic reactions to the peanut butter. But peanut butter is not dangerous. The reason is that in large enough numbers you will always produce certain results, even when the risk of that result is individually very low.

Conversely, people underestimate the risk when the occurrence is rare. Tetanus has a 6 percent fatality rate even with treatment. It is at least 600 percent more deadly than covid. But we do not worry about it or even consider it a personal risk because getting tetanus is fairly rare. But if tetanus infected as many people as covid you would have hundred of million dead. It just seems less deadly because the actual numbers of dead is low (due to low prevalence) while covid seems more dangerous because of the higher number of dead (due to high prevalence).

Covidiots fall for the tuchidiocy of being unable to assess individual risk every time.

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Kronder12 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is always the case with Tuchidiots

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