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buoyantmutant 1 point ago +2 / -1

These trials literally cost peoples' lives.

Dude, welcome to medical ethics 101. The ethics of clinic trials are well thought through. In fact this trial was halted early because the drug was so effective it was deemed unethical to continue restricting the placebo group.

was used in places like India on a wide scale and there was a concurrent sudden decline in cases and deaths.

Dude, welcome to causal inference 101.

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buoyantmutant 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does Banned_on_ZH have a background, or any experience, in biochemistry? Does he/she know anything beyond a google search?

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buoyantmutant 1 point ago +2 / -1

Here's research that says viral loads falls significantly faster in vaxxed people.

viral loads decreased faster in vaccinated individuals.

Vaccination is associated with faster decline in viral RNA load and a robust serological response. Vaccination remains a key strategy for control of COVID-19 pandemic.

But I mean there is so many more studies that show the same direction: here, here, here

But you know what doesn't stop a pandemic - doing nothing. And by nothing I mean putting faith in ineffective treatments, attending anti-vaxx / lockdown rallies, etc. These actions are pro-pandemic.

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buoyantmutant 0 points ago +2 / -2

Yea, this is about right. That plus vaxxed folks have smaller viral loads => smaller transmission probability.

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buoyantmutant -1 points ago +2 / -3
  • Your linked study is a study of the Delta variant vs previous variants, not vaccinated vs un-vaccinated.

Viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.

Here's research that says viral loads falls significantly faster in vaxxed people.

viral loads decreased faster in vaccinated individuals.

Vaccination is associated with faster decline in viral RNA load and a robust serological response. Vaccination remains a key strategy for control of COVID-19 pandemic.

But I mean there is so many more studies that show the same direction: here, here, here

But you know what doesn't stop a pandemic - doing nothing. And by nothing I mean putting faith in ineffective treatments, attending anti-vaxx / lockdown rallies, etc. These actions are pro-pandemic.

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buoyantmutant -8 points ago +5 / -13

Simple: it's not effective, and hence a distraction from finishing the pandemic.

other readily available remedies, vitamins, and supplements.

Also not effective. You know what is effective?

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buoyantmutant -2 points ago +1 / -3

Attend event -> turns out it was a covid outbreak -> are now sick at home

What's the probability the sickness is covid? pretty fucking high.

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buoyantmutant -1 points ago +1 / -2

But thousands of other virologists and scientists say otherwise - I'm guessing it's like a 90+:1 ratio, maybe more. What makes this doctor more important than the others?

This is a legit question: why this doctor? A priori, before Covid, would you have weighed this doctor's opinion so heavily (90+:1) vs others?

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buoyantmutant 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry to hear about your mom's cancer diagnosis. There's no relationship between vaccines and causing cancer.

I think it's time I get a lawyer to help.

Agree, a lawyer will definitely have a printer.

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buoyantmutant 0 points ago +1 / -1

huh? Every news report says something like

The man accused the nurse of having “vaccinated his wife without his consent”

his consent? gmafb

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