I disagree, unless you take away the free money, people in that category will never will themselves to work 'to feel productive'. Those types of people don't end up welfare voluntarily to begin with.
I think the argument there isn’t to try to sell these people on the value of work or freedom or anything abstract like that. Instead point out what happens under communism throughout history: after the “free money to do nothing” runs out (it only lasts about a month or two, once everyone is on it), your next check comes with an assigned job for the government. “To qualify for your next payment, we have signed you up to do this hard manual labor on these dates. Suddenly you are a slave of the state with no freedom and now you are working harder than you were before for no money, just your daily rations. The “free money to do nothing” was just the cheese to spring the mouse trap.
True enough. These are old-timey words to normies. Perhaps it could be framed against UBI instead. The main point though that I think even normies would be able to accept is the idea that “there is no free lunch”.
I know how you feel. A longtime friend is a teacher and she has lost her mind over Covid. There is no lockdown measure that she thinks is too extreme.
yep. There are millions of people who yearn to sit around and take up space on government assistance for the rest of their lives.
I disagree, unless you take away the free money, people in that category will never will themselves to work 'to feel productive'. Those types of people don't end up welfare voluntarily to begin with.
I think the argument there isn’t to try to sell these people on the value of work or freedom or anything abstract like that. Instead point out what happens under communism throughout history: after the “free money to do nothing” runs out (it only lasts about a month or two, once everyone is on it), your next check comes with an assigned job for the government. “To qualify for your next payment, we have signed you up to do this hard manual labor on these dates. Suddenly you are a slave of the state with no freedom and now you are working harder than you were before for no money, just your daily rations. The “free money to do nothing” was just the cheese to spring the mouse trap.
Good luck explaining that to the average pogey recipient, lol. Most people's eyes glaze over the minute you mention 'communism'.
True enough. These are old-timey words to normies. Perhaps it could be framed against UBI instead. The main point though that I think even normies would be able to accept is the idea that “there is no free lunch”.