Downvoting isn't the problem. Things that prevent voting are the problem.
Stickies, vote hiding, vote "munging", shadowbans for dissenters.
Look at the responses to earlier Reddit admin "amusing" announcements (before said vote-preventions went into effect) for the system working as intended.
It's not black&white "disable downvotes" or "let them downvote any reasonable post or argument into oblivion until only their views were being seen.".
You can control for the latter without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
(Note: minor modification of an earlier comment of mine on the subject.)
I mean, I guess we can also just wait until we start to see actual brigading happening and then remove it then. It just seems like more work to me. The downvote button exposes us to risk, and offers very little benefit otherwise. TD.win seem to be getting along fine without it.
I also like this idea. The other thing is if people don't like a post just don't upvote it. I don't know if that well mess with things, but honestly negativity breeds like cancer on the internet. It should be if you don't like it, move on. Not brigade it to be taken down. (Unless it's illegal, that's another story.)
Right, illegal posts still need to be taken down. If legit members of this forum don’t like a post, just don’t upvote it like you said. The downvote buttons on posts are much more likely to be abused by liberal spies than they are to be of any use to any of us.
I'd argue strongly otherwise.
Downvoting isn't the problem. Things that prevent voting are the problem.
Stickies, vote hiding, vote "munging", shadowbans for dissenters.
Look at the responses to earlier Reddit admin "amusing" announcements (before said vote-preventions went into effect) for the system working as intended.
It's not black&white "disable downvotes" or "let them downvote any reasonable post or argument into oblivion until only their views were being seen.".
You can control for the latter without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
(Note: minor modification of an earlier comment of mine on the subject.)
I mean, I guess we can also just wait until we start to see actual brigading happening and then remove it then. It just seems like more work to me. The downvote button exposes us to risk, and offers very little benefit otherwise. TD.win seem to be getting along fine without it.
I also like this idea. The other thing is if people don't like a post just don't upvote it. I don't know if that well mess with things, but honestly negativity breeds like cancer on the internet. It should be if you don't like it, move on. Not brigade it to be taken down. (Unless it's illegal, that's another story.)
Right, illegal posts still need to be taken down. If legit members of this forum don’t like a post, just don’t upvote it like you said. The downvote buttons on posts are much more likely to be abused by liberal spies than they are to be of any use to any of us.
First thing I noticed here. Please remove the v.