Downvoting isn't the problem. Things that prevent voting are the problem.
Stickies, vote hiding, vote "munging", shadowbans for dissenters.
Look at the responses to earlier Reddit admin "amusing" announcements (before said vote-preventions went into effect) for the system working as intended.
It's not black&white "disable downvotes" or "let them downvote any reasonable post or argument into oblivion until only their views were being seen.".
You can control for the latter without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
(Note: minor modification of an earlier comment of mine on the subject.)
I mean, I guess we can also just wait until we start to see actual brigading happening and then remove it then. It just seems like more work to me. The downvote button exposes us to risk, and offers very little benefit otherwise. TD.win seem to be getting along fine without it.
I'd argue strongly otherwise.
Downvoting isn't the problem. Things that prevent voting are the problem.
Stickies, vote hiding, vote "munging", shadowbans for dissenters.
Look at the responses to earlier Reddit admin "amusing" announcements (before said vote-preventions went into effect) for the system working as intended.
It's not black&white "disable downvotes" or "let them downvote any reasonable post or argument into oblivion until only their views were being seen.".
You can control for the latter without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
(Note: minor modification of an earlier comment of mine on the subject.)
I mean, I guess we can also just wait until we start to see actual brigading happening and then remove it then. It just seems like more work to me. The downvote button exposes us to risk, and offers very little benefit otherwise. TD.win seem to be getting along fine without it.