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Pneumonia preceded by the flu was never listed as a flu death

Statscan literally codes pneumonia/flu deaths in the same category. As people who die from flu typically die from the pneumonia that develops afterwards.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310039401

Influenza and pneumonia [J09-J18]

When you are coughing vigorously to shed virus (whether it be flu, cold, SARS-CoV-2, rhinovirus, etc), this irritates your lungs. Which creates an opportunistic pathway for bacteria to invade your lungs. Pneumonia being one of the most common bacterial infections you develop after getting a respiratory virus.

Respiratory viruses like flu, cold, rhinovirus, covid, etc. generally can not kill you on its own. There is usually a secondary infection that leads to death. Or a complication that leads to death.

If HIV weakens my immune system and I develop pneumonia and die, pneumonia is listed as the cause of death. If I have diabetes and have a heart attack, it is not assumed that diabetes caused the heart attack. So if you are to accredit "assists" for COVID, do it for all other diseases as well.

That's how it works when they code cause of death. It is impossible for HIV to kill you directly. HIV weakens the immune system and causes you to develop some other illness and die. That's how it kills you. HIV always kills you via "assist". Yet we still have deaths marked down under HIV in Canada. Diabetes to my knowledge can only really kill you via "assists" as well. And diabetes deaths do get coded. However I think the reporting of diabetes deaths is under-reported. I have two family members who had diabetes who died of heart attack. Their diabetes definitely contributed to their heart attacks.

The problem with the way they report COVID deaths is that that they report everyone who had COVID at the time of death as a COVID death. So if I get shot and had COVID in my system at the time, it's a COVID death. Which is silly. But developing pneumonia after a viral infection is common knowledge. Even before we had masks, people were dying of pneumonia after having the flu/cold.

Statscan denies leading cause of death in a way that is completely different from the way that COVID deaths are reported by the government btw. But underlying cause of death takes into account "assists". If you have HIV and you develop pneumonia as a result, HIV is the underlying cause of death. If you have flu and you develop pneumonia as a result, flu is the underlying cause of death. If you have diabetes and you get a heart attack as a result, diabetes is the underlying cause of death.

The cause of death tabulated is the underlying cause of death. This is defined as (a) the disease or injury which initiated the train of events leading directly to death, or (b) the circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the fatal injury. The underlying cause is selected from the conditions listed on the medical certificate of cause of death.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: None provided.

Pneumonia preceded by the flu was never listed as a flu death

Statscan literally codes pneumonia/flu deaths in the same category. As people who die from flu typically die from the pneumonia that develops afterwards.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310039401

Influenza and pneumonia [J09-J18]

When you are coughing vigorously to shed virus (whether it be flu, cold, SARS-CoV-2, rhinovirus, etc), this irritates your lungs. Which creates an opportunistic pathway for bacteria to invade your lungs. Pneumonia being one of the most common bacterial infections you develop after getting a respiratory virus.

Respiratory viruses like flu, cold, rhinovirus, covid, etc. generally can not kill you on its own. There is usually a secondary infection that leads to death. Or a complication that leads to death.

If HIV weakens my immune system and I develop pneumonia and die, pneumonia is listed as the cause of death. If I have diabetes and have a heart attack, it is not assumed that diabetes caused the heart attack. So if you are to accredit "assists" for COVID, do it for all other diseases as well.

That's how it works when they code cause of death. It is impossible for HIV to kill you directly. HIV weakens the immune system and causes you to develop some other illness and die. That's how it kills you. HIV always kills you via "assist". Yet we still have deaths marked down under HIV in Canada. Diabetes to my knowledge can only really kill you via "assists" as well. And diabetes deaths do get coded. However I think the reporting of diabetes deaths is under-reported. I have two family members who had diabetes who died of heart attack. Their diabetes definitely contributed to their heart attacks.

The problem with the way they report COVID deaths is that that they report everyone who had COVID at the time of death as a COVID death. So if I get shot and had COVID in my system at the time, it's a COVID death. Which is silly. But developing pneumonia after a viral infection is common knowledge. Even before we had masks, people were dying of pneumonia after having the flu/cold.

Statscan denies leading cause of death in a way that is completely different from the way that COVID deaths are reported btw. But underlying cause of death takes into account "assists". If you have HIV and you develop pneumonia as a result, HIV is the underlying cause of death. If you have flu and you develop pneumonia as a result, flu is the underlying cause of death. If you have diabetes and you get a heart attack as a result, diabetes is the underlying cause of death.

The cause of death tabulated is the underlying cause of death. This is defined as (a) the disease or injury which initiated the train of events leading directly to death, or (b) the circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the fatal injury. The underlying cause is selected from the conditions listed on the medical certificate of cause of death.

3 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

Pneumonia preceded by the flu was never listed as a flu death

Statscan literally codes pneumonia/flu deaths in the same category. As people who die from flu typically die from the pneumonia that develops afterwards.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1310039401

Influenza and pneumonia [J09-J18]

When you are coughing vigorously to shed virus (whether it be flu, cold, SARS-CoV-2, rhinovirus, etc), this irritates your lungs. Which creates an opportunistic pathway for bacteria to invade your lungs. Pneumonia being one of the most common bacterial infections you develop after getting a respiratory virus.

Respiratory viruses like flu, cold, rhinovirus, covid, etc. generally can not kill you on its own. There is usually a secondary infection that leads to death. Or a complication that leads to death.

If HIV weakens my immune system and I develop pneumonia and die, pneumonia is listed as the cause of death. If I have diabetes and have a heart attack, it is not assumed that diabetes caused the heart attack. So if you are to accredit "assists" for COVID, do it for all other diseases as well.

That's how it works when they code cause of death. It is impossible for HIV to kill you directly. HIV weakens the immune system and causes you to develop some other illness and die. That's how it kills you. HIV always kills you via "assist". Yet we still have deaths marked down under HIV in Canada. Diabetes to my knowledge can only really kill you via "assists" as well. And diabetes deaths do get coded. However I think the reporting of diabetes deaths is under-reported. I have two family members who had diabetes who died of heart attack. Their diabetes definitely contributed to their heart attacks.

The problem with the way they report COVID deaths is that that they report everyone who had COVID at the time of death as a COVID death. So if I get shot and had COVID in my system at the time, it's a COVID death. Which is silly. But developing pneumonia after a viral infection is common knowledge. Even before we had masks, people were dying of pneumonia after having the flu/cold.

3 years ago
1 score