I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated. Sorry for the awkward formatting - I can't seem to get the columns any straighter.
Variant Discovered Location 1st vaccine
Zeta 2020 April Brazil 2021 January
Epsilon 2020 July California 2020 December
Alpha 2020 Oct. UK 2020 December
Delta 2020 Oct. India 2021 January
Eta 2020 Dec. UK, Nigeria 2021 March
Beta 2020 Dec. S.Africa 2021 February
Gamma 2021 Jan. Japan 2021 February
Theta 2021 Feb. Philippines 2021 March
I think you're looking through the wrong end of the telescope. You seem to be arguing that we'd be better off without these treatments. You use HIV as an example despite the fact that these treatments have made HIV far less deadly than it was initially, and that's true of all the major viruses that used to affect us. Who even gets polio anymore?
I think I understand why you're including antibiotic treatment for bacteria in your list of examples but it's worth pointing out that viruses like covid don't respond to antibiotics, and that viruses mutate quite a bit faster than bacteria.
As far as I can tell variants are found only in unvaccinated people. I'm willing to change my mind if you can show me where this is not the case and how prevalent it is.
Finally, you make the claim that "variants first appeared in places that first introduced vaccines" and I'm going to have to ask for something more than your word. I spent some time on the Internet looking at where various variants were discovered and when the first vaccinations occurred and in every single case the variant came first, before anyone had been vaccinated.
Variant Discovered Location 1st vaccine
Zeta 2020 April Brazil 2021 January
Epsilon 2020 July California 2020 December
Alpha 2020 Oct. UK 2020 December
Delta 2020 Oct. India 2021 January
Eta 2020 Dec. UK, Nigeria 2021 March
Beta 2020 Dec. S.Africa 2021 February
Gamma 2021 Jan. Japan 2021 February
Theta 2021 Feb. Philippines 2021 March