Ham what is your suggested stratagy to end the lockdowns?

Well it certainly isn't to whine on a soapbox and rub shoulders with Hitler admirers and holocaust deniers. What is that going to accomplish?

Canadians overwhelmingly support the lockdowns so if I wanted to end them, my strategy would have to be to run for office while not overtly opposing the lockdowns since doing so would guarantee I lose. And I can't end any lockdowns if I don't get elected, can I?

This is what you guys refuse to understand. You refuse to play to win and insist on instead just playing to virtue-signal to the right-wing fringes, then you wonder why you don't win. It's fuckign mind-boglging. You're INSITING that parties make you promises that will guarantee they lose and you don't care, you just want to hear leaders make the noises you want to hear, election outcomes be damned. It's like you're not interested in solutions, you're just interested in hearing what you want to hear. And no matter how many times it's explained to you, you refuse to understand.

Let's try an analogy here. Let's say hypothetically there's a voter out there who really wants to put women back in the kitchen by banning them from having jobs and making them the property of their fathers or husbands (No I'm not calling you a misogynist, this is just a hypothetical example of some wildly unpopular policy position).

So he says to O'Toole

"O'Toole you cuck, you'd better publicly promise to put those women back in the kitchen or else I'm not giving you my vote! I'll vote PPC instead!"

Well that's stupid because even if O'Toole wanted to put women back in the kitchen, and even if he secretly planned on doing it, he'd be an idiot to publicly make that promise because it's wildly unpopular and would cost him the election.

So that moron who's demanding O'Toole promise to a wildly unpopular policy position that would guarantee he loses? That's you. That's exactly what you're doing right now. You're demanding O'toole take positions that would guarantee he loses because you have no forethought, you're not interested in solutions, you just want O'Toole to make the noises you want to hear. That's naive and childish.

Ham what is your suggested stratagy to end the lockdowns?

Well it certainly isn't to whine on a soapbox and rub shoulders with Hitler admirers and holocaust deniers. What is that going to accomplish?

Canadians overwhelmingly support the lockdowns so if I wanted to end them, my strategy would have to be to run for office while not overtly opposing the lockdowns since doing so would guarantee I lose. And I can't end any lockdowns if I don't get elected, can I?

This is what you guys refuse to understand. You refuse to play to win and insist on instead just playing to virtue-signal to the right-wing fringes, then you wonder why you don't win. It's fuckign mind-boglging. You're INSITING that parties make you promises that will guarantee they lose and you don't care, you just want to hear leaders make the noises you want to hear, election outcomes be damned. It's like you're not interested in solutions, you're just interested in hearing what you want to hear. And no matter how many times it's explained to you, you refuse to understand.

Let's try an analogy here. Let's say hypothetically there's a voter out there who really wants to put women back in the kitchen by banning them from having jobs and making them the property of their fathers or husbands (No I'm not calling you a misogynist, this is just a hypothetical example of some wildly unpopular policy position).

So he says to O'Toole

"O'Toole you cuck, you'd better publicly promise to put those women back in the kitchen or else I'm not giving you my vote! I'll vote PPC instead!"

Well that's stupid because even if O'Toole wanted to put women back in the kitchen, and even if he secretly planned on doing it, he'd be an idiot publicly make that promise because it's wildly unpopular and would cost him the election.

So that moron who's demanding O'Toole promise to a wildly unpopular policy position that would guarantee he loses? That's you. That's exactly what you're doing right now. You're demanding O'toole take positions that would guarantee he loses because you have no forethought, you're not interested in solutions, you just want O'Toole to make the noises you want to hear. That's naive and childish.

Ham what is your suggested stratagy to end the lockdowns?

Well it certainly isn't to whine on a soapbox and rub shoulders with Hitler admirers and holocaust deniers. What is that going to accomplish?

Canadians overwhelmingly support the lockdowns so if I wanted to end them, my strategy would have to be to run for office while not overtly opposing the lockdowns since doing so would guarantee I lose. And I can't end any lockdowns if I don't get elected, can I?

This is what you guys refuse to understand. You refuse to play to win and insist on instead just playing to virtue-signal to the right-wing fringes, then you wonder why you don't win. It's fuckign mind-boglging. You're INSITING that parties make you promises that will guarantee they lose and you don't care, you just want to hear leaders make the noises you want to hear, election outcomes be damned. It's like you're not interested in solutions, you're just interested in hearing what you want to hear. And no matter how many times it's explained to you, you refuse to understand.

Let's try an analogy here. Let's say hypothetically there's a voter out there who really wants to put women back in the kitchen by banning them from having jobs and making them the property of their fathers or husbands (No I'm not calling you a misogynist, this is just a hypothetical example of some wildly unpopular policy position).

So he says to O'Toole

"O'Toole you cuck, you'd better publicly promise to put those women back in the kitchen or else I'm not giving you my vote! I'll vote PPC instead!"

Well that's stupid because even if O'Toole wanted to put women back in the kitchen, and even if he secretly planned on doing it, he'd be an idiot publicly make that promise because it's wildly unpopular and would cost him the election.

So that moron who's demanding O'Toole promise to a wildly unpopular policy position that would guarantee he loses? That's you. That's exactly what you're doing right now. You're demanding O'toole take positions that would guarantee he loses because you have no forethought, you're not interested in solutions, you just want O'Toole to make the noises you want to hear. That's naive and childish.

Ham what is your suggested stratagy to end the lockdowns?

Well it certainly isn't to whine on a soapbox and rub shoulders with Hitler admirers and holocaust deniers. What is that going to accomplish?

Canadians overwhelmingly support the lockdowns so if I wanted to end them, my strategy would have to be to run for office while not overtly opposing the lockdowns since doing so would guarantee I lose. And I can't end any lockdowns if I don't get elected, can I?

This is what you guys refuse to understand. You refuse to play to win and insist on instead just playing to virtue-signal to the right-wing fringes, then you wonder why you don't win. It's fuckign mind-boglging. You're INSITING that parties make you promises that will guarantee they lose and you don't care, you just want to hear leaders make the noises you want to hear, election outcomes be damned. It's like you're not interested in solutions, you're just interested in hearing what you want to hear. And no matter how many times it's explained to you, you refuse to understand.

Let's try an analogy here. Let's say hypothetically there's a voter out there who really wants to put women back in the kitchen by banning them from having jobs and making them the property of their fathers or husbands (No I'm calling you a misogynist, this is just a hypothetical example of some wildly unpopular policy position).

So he says to O'Toole

"O'Toole you cuck, you'd better publicly promise to put those women back in the kitchen or else I'm not giving you my vote! I'll vote PPC instead!"

Well that's stupid because even if O'Toole wanted to put women back in the kitchen, and even if he secretly planned on doing it, he'd be an idiot publicly make that promise because it's wildly unpopular and would cost him the election.

So that moron who's demanding O'Toole promise to a wildly unpopular policy position that would guarantee he loses? That's you. That's exactly what you're doing right now. You're demanding O'toole take positions that would guarantee he loses because you have no forethought, you're not interested in solutions, you just want O'Toole to make the noises you want to hear. That's naive and childish.