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What percentage of people who get covid do you think actually die from it?

You do realize that the risk of death for someone who does not have a preexisting chronic condition is almost zero, right?

The total case fatality rate is: 1.1 percent (taking into account even the high death toll at the beginning of the disease). This percentage is the average total risk of death for all age groups. But obviously the risk will be higher for the old and the sick with preexisting chronic conditions and lower for the young. So 1,1 percent is a bit scare-mongerish. https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

But as the website points out, the actual risk of death if you are infected is much lower because many cases of covid are not counted and some cases that are counted as death should not be. In other words, the case fatality rate is the percentage of people known to have been infected to are considered to have died with covid. But in many cases, people who get covid were not included in the total so their survival was not recorded, leading to a higher case fatality rate. For example, as in my case, people who were diagnosed at home with a rapid antigen test are not included in that statistic. Plus the death toll at the beginning of the pandemic was much higher. 20 percent of people infected were dying in Wuhan in early 2020. But as treatment improved (and I am not talking about vaccines, but rather the fact that doctors realized that intubation was not a good treatment option, for example) the death rate plummetted. Even if you look at the period prior to the vaccines, the death rate was already below 1 percent.

In addition, some deaths should not be included at all but since they are they tend to increase the case fatality rate. If they were properly excluded the death rate would be lower than 1,1 percent. For example, In the UK, they listed anyone who died within 6 months of having had covid as a covid death. This meant that if you literally got hit by a bus months after recovering, you were counted as a covid death. And by the way, why is the same methodology not applied to the vaxxes. Isnt it convenient that they do not count anyone who died within 6 months of getting the vaxx as a vaxx death. Not that I think they should, but you can see the unequal treatment of the two questions.

As sauce for what I am saying: https://denvergazette.com/news/new-zealand-man-who-died-of-gunshot-wound-to-be-recorded-as-covid-19-death/article_f33fe779-8294-5e91-96c6-a5cb00923a5e.html

https://cbs12.com/news/local/i-team-deaths-incorrectly-attributed-to-covid-19-in-palm-beach-county: examples, 90 year old with parkinsons, a man infected with covid who died in a motorcycle accident.

In contrast to the risk of dying from covid - even using the official but skewed statistics, the risk of dying from tetanus is about 6 percent. The risk of dying from Seasonal flu (US) is 0.1 to 0.2% for the entire population, but of course both covid and flu affect the elderly and the sick much more so individual risk may be higher or lower.

For healthy people both covid and the flu pose a negligible risk. There is no reason to force mass vaccination or impose segregation against the unvaxxed since the covid vaccine does not prevent infection or transmission of covid. Even if we accepted your belief that the vaxx reduces the risk of mortality from covid without increasing the risk of death from other vaxx induced diseases, there is no need because you would be reducing an almost imperceptible risk. If the overall risk of death for the entire population is 1.1 percent, this is not distributed equally among all age groups or other factors. The elderly and people with diabetes may have a risk higher than 1.1 percent but the risk for a healthy 30 year old is almost zero.

There might be a case to be made for vaccinating 90 year olds in care homes because their risk of dying from covid is much higher than the average person and because their remaining life expectancy is so low that any problems from these untested mrna modifications may not even manifest themselves in the remaining time.

2 years ago
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What percentage of people who get covid do you think actually die from it? Have you even bothered to look up the statistics before becoming a vaccine evangelist.

You do realize that the risk of death for someone who does not have a preexisting chronic condition is almost zero, right?

The total case fatality rate is: 1.1 percent (taking into account even the high death toll at the beginning of the disease). This percentage is the average total risk of death for all age groups. But obviously the risk will be higher for the old and the sick with preexisting chronic conditions and lower for the young. So 1,1 percent is a bit scare-mongerish. https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid

But as the website points out, the actual risk of death if you are infected is much lower because many cases of covid are not counted. Plus the death toll at the beginning of the pandemic was much higher. 20 percent of people infected were dying in Wuhan in early 2020. But as treatment improved (and I am not talking about vaccines, but rather the fact that doctors realized that intubation was not a good treatment option, for example) the death rate plummetted. Even if you look at the period prior to the vaccines, the death rate was already below 1 percent.

In contrast, the risk of dying from tetanus is about 6 percent. The risk of dying from Seasonal flu (US) is 0.1 to 0.2% for the entire population, but of course both covid and flu affect the elderly and the sick much more so individual risk may be higher or lower.

For healthy people both covid and the flu pose a negligible risk. There is no reason to force mass vaccination since the covid vaccine does not prevent infection or transmission of covid. Even if we accepted your belief that the vaxx reduces the risk of mortality from covid without increasing the risk of death from other vaxx induced diseases, there is no need because you would be reducing an almost imperceptible risk. There might be a case to be made for vaccinating 90 year olds in care homes because their risk of dying from covid is much higher than the average person and because their remaining life expectancy is so low that any problems from these untested mrna modifications may not even manifest themselves in the remaining time.

As for the risk of death from covid cited above, you do realize that there is a chronic difference between dying with covid and from covid. In the UK, for example, they listed anyone who died within 6 months of having had covid as a covid death. This meant that if you literally got hit by a bus months after recovering, you were counted as a covid death. And by the way, why is the same methodology not applied to the vaxxes. Isnt it convenient that they do not count anyone who died within 6 months of getting the vaxx as a vaxx death. Not that I think they should, but you can see the unequal treatment of the two questions.

2 years ago
1 score