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DoMe22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thousands are nothing in Canada.

Hundreds are chasing Trudeau into hiding as we speak.

Did you even read the website. The 700 abortions after the second trimester are only for the 17,000 where the time of the abortion was reported. There were over 50,000 abortions which aren't even included in that. You can add another 2,000 abortions after the second trimester to that. You said that "abortions after the second trimester don't happen" in Canada. This is not true. You have thousands of abortions after the second trimester in Canada every year. You have no idea of what you talk about.

I also tallied the percentages, which if we were to extrapolate it to the 50,000 additional you suggest there is, means that out of our sample size of ~67.000 equates ~2,680 after the second trimester. You can compare this to the ~49,848 we know for certain are pre second trimester.

Even if you split the remaining ~14,271 that were legitimately were not categorized, and your final total becomes ~60,466 after the second trimester, and ~3,268.

In a country of 37 million.

Almost a 20 to 1 chance, if you even bother to get an abortion, which I think is safe to assume that most Canadian Women do not, or have not.

What you're ignoring, is that I said they're not likely, because your own sources state that most medical providers will not perform them.

They may not be regulatory restrictions, they're still restrictions.

I don't understand how you can be this ignorant.

They don't. There are more people in Ontario supporting Ontarian separatism than people in Alberta supporting Alberta separatism. Quebec didn't make it out of the confederacy and they have a separate culture and language.

I'd like a source on that one.

Quebec doesn't legitimately want out of confederacy. They make a stink once a year because they know the government will capitulate and give them what they want. Can't lose the seats in those ridings after all.

They're doing it because it works.

You're foolish to think it'll last.

There is nothing to change. I'm right. https://www.macleans.ca/politics/how-much-do-canadians-dislike-donald-trump-a-lot/

I wonder what their sampling was. Kek.

Because most of the people who I've spoken to either say something to the effect of "I don't like him, personally, but his policy was pretty good." or are quick to change their tune when actually provided with his platforms.

There is no freedom of speech in Canada. The charter allows the Canadian government to place "reasonable limits" on speech. Hate speech is not legal in Canada, but it legal in the US. We have comedians being fined by for jokes: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/mike-ward-quebec-court-of-appeal-j%C3%A9r%C3%A9my-gabriel-1.5377318 We have very strict hate speech laws. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/c-46/section-319.html The US doesn't have these.

That term "Reasonable" places the burden of proving "reasonability" on the accusing party. A comedian doesn't have the means to sit in jail and pay for trial to challenge it.

Someone like me, on the other hand, I'm okay with going rig-pigging for a bit to buy a real sleeze-ball of a lawyer a second home for the easiest, open-and-shut countersuit of his life.

It's the same reason you can challenge your tickets for refusing the Quarantine Hotels upon return to Canada. The Federal Government does not have a Federal State of Emergency for the Covid-19 Pandemic, and thus cannot prove reasonability in overstepping the Quarantine Act, Section 14.1, and Section 6 of the Charter.

For the record, I did so in February of this year. They didn't even mail me my ticket in spite of me making sure they had all of my paperwork and identification.

The police were real helpful, and escorted me past the testing station to my next gate for my connecting flight, Through Toronto Pearson.

Dude, you can't even buy an AR-15 right now in Canada because it's illegal. And you want to tell me that we are the same as the US?

No. That's you making an assumption. What I've been saying is that we are still plenty armed in Canada, even though it's not a legally enshrined right. Every farm and Redneck in Canada has at least one Rifle.

Tell me, is a bullet fired from a .22 less likely to kill you if it connects center of mass?

I listed you all the differences that matter.

And I've explained to you why these differences are superficial at best. You don't want to listen. That is your fault.

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DoMe22 1 point ago +1 / -0

There is no notable disagreement, even in conservatives provinces. See Alberta where you have only a few hundred people demonstrating and even the majority agreeing with it.

Maybe if you keep watching the CBC, that will be true. The protests are happening everywhere. Thousands of people. I was able to find the ones in Quebec and Ontario before I was able to find the ones in Alberta.

You're a retard. You can easily look up how many abortion where done in Canada in what trimester. https://abortionincanada.ca/stats/abortions-by-gestational-age/ Hundreds of babies are aborted after 21 weeks in Canada every year. It is legal and it is being done in Canada. You also pay for it with your tax dollars.

I straight up went and did the math you should have done before posting that source.

74.7% of abortions happened before the second trimester. Only 4% happened afterwards. A shocking 21.3% weren't reported. And there were only 17,421 abortions provided and reported.

This means only 697 abortions provided after the second trimester. (it gave me a fraction by the way. You can't have .84 of an abortion)

Canada has a population of 37 million people.

All of that is in line with what I said.

Do you even verify your sources before you post them?

??? Alberta never threatened to leave. Some Facebook groups in Alberta larp as separatists. That's it. Never did the provincial government in Alberta support separatism. And in Quebec separatism is dead since the early 90s. No province in Canada is "threatening to leave the confederacy" once a year.

Kenney ran on the platform of putting forth papers to leave the confederacy. Granted, Kenney is a cuck who isn't going to do it, but that doesn't mean It isn't a real issue on the docket, and it'll only gain steam if things continue.

You are one person. Trump is still hated by the vast majority of Canadians and even the majority of Canadian Conservatives.

That's one conversation away from changing.

You spent too much time on thedonald.win. This is proven that you can't even find and connect to Canadian protest movements. You are alone and all you consumed is Conservative American media. Your perception of what Canadian politics are and what they are about are just wrong.

Can't help but notice you abandoned your talking points about freedom of speech, or the right to bear arms. Could it be because you realized you were wrong?

Again. Find some practical differences and we'll keep talking, champ.

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DoMe22 2 points ago +2 / -0

We don't. Canadian Conservatism has nothing in common other than "less taxes" with American Conservatism. And this isn't the fault of some compromised politicians. This is what voters want.

Less taxes. Disagreement with Mask and Vaccine Mandates. There are talks of seccession in western provinces as often as there is with Quebec these days. But it's all in line with what voters want, right?

"Canada is the only nation with absolutely no legal restrictions to access abortion services."

From your Wikipedia source:

Nationally, abortion is legal through all nine months (40 weeks) of pregnancy.[8] However, few providers in Canada offer abortion care beyond 23 weeks and 6 days.

Seems you're wrong, buckaroo. Because Abortions beyond 23 weeks and 6 days does not appear to happen. Second Trimester.

Restrictions appear to be based on availability of service. There is little to no service beyond that point. While legal, it isn't in practice.

It's not a minor difference. Fiscal conservatives are not social conservatives. These two things have nothing to do with another.

Except for the way that they vote. Which appears to overlap.

National healthcare

No argument. We have National Healtcare.

no free speech

Section 2(b) of the charter of rights and freedoms, bud. I have the right to freedom of expression.

no 2nd amendment

No gun culture. We're plenty armed. Look up the rates of firearm ownership for Rural Canadians and get back to me.

no restrictions on abortion

No legal restriction. Practical restrictions exist. You are very unlikely to receive an abortion in Canada past the second trimester.

a oversized social security net

Indeed. No argument here. Some want that changed.

money transfers between the provinces so that every Canadian is "equal"

Alberta and Quebec threaten to secede from the country once a year like clockwork, for opposite reasons on this issue. This doesn't say what you think it does.

a parliamentary system with several parties

No. We functionally have 2 parties. One of them just has 2 (And a half, if you count the greens) names. They largely vote for the same thing, which gives you the same end result.

a disdain for American politics (even the vast majority of Conservatives hated Trump here in Canada).

Hated. Past tense. In 2016, I was one of em. Then I started paying attention.

We don't have superficial differences with the US. We have major difference with the US. Just because you see some people in Alberta driving around with an F150 while listening country music, doesn't mean that they American.

Identify the practical differences, and then we can continue this discussion, because you don't appear to be able to accept that 1+3 and 2+2 both equal 4.

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DoMe22 2 points ago +2 / -0

Look at out vaccinations rates. Look at our politicians. Our Conservatives would be even considered to far left to get on the ballot as Democrats in some US States. O'Toole is tweeting about LGBT pride, transgender support and that he is supporting any province that implements a vaccine passport. Does this sound to you like we follow "the American trend"? Our left leaning parties are topping each other with promises to spend more and more.

This only proves my point. We as Canadians rely a tonne on Conservativism and Populism that exists just across that border. Our politicians are largely compromised. I can think of 2 politicians that I enjoy in all of Canadian Politics. Pierre Poilievre and Maxime Bernier. O'Toole is a spineless fool, who's name is only known because he somehow ended up in the leadership seat of the "Conservative" party. Kenney is spineless. The only politicians known in Canada are the ones we hate, and the one's we're stuck with, with some overlap.

Culture will invariably influence your politics. It's why you can largely identify someone's politics almost exclusively by their interests and beliefs.

Whenever there is a social change down south, it seems to find its way north in between 1 to 5 months.

We have no 2nd amendment.

We don't. But it doesn't appear to be necessary when you account for how armed Rural Canadians are.

We have no restrictions on abortion.

Nnno. We're not as restrictive as the United states.

We have only a very small social conservative base, which can be totally ignored during any election.

We have a very large Fiscally Conservative base that cannot. That's a very minor difference, because of how often they do in fact overlap.

We have several parties in our parliament, including the NDP which was founded by socialist farmers.

The NDP and the Greens are basically the Liberals. That's tantamount to the illusion of choice. Every time they vote, it is how the Liberals want them to. Can't let the Tories have a W, after all. Same goes for the PPC to the Tories, as much as I hate to say it.

This is reinforced from the other side by the complaint that you'll "Split the vote" if you vote anything other than the PC's as a conservative. You still functionally have 2 sides.

We have far more in common with European countries.

Our system does. Our policy and politics does not.

Those differences seem superficial at best, upon closer inspection.

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DoMe22 1 point ago +1 / -0

endthelockdowns.com appears to be unowned. But, I found the Angry Albertan. Thanks.

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DoMe22 7 points ago +7 / -0

Really? How much of the media we consume up here is actually Canadian? The answer to that is only the amount that is federally mandated.

We have Marvel. We have DC. We imported Uber and Lyft. All our stars come from Hollywood. BLM started down south and crossed the border.

When Trump was in office our GDP rose.

We have pretty much every major American Cultural Hallmark that you can think of.

About the only difference is that we have Nationalized Healthcare, and Quebec.

If you want Canada to straighten up, help America Straighten up. Trust me on that one.

But that has little to do with what I'm after. Kenney is a cuck, and I want to protest his bullshit.

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DoMe22 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's get real here. In order for people to get to the bloody point, there has to be a general consensus. In the states, the lengths they're going to are redpilling even the normies; people are waking up to the tangible abuses of authority, and Biden is only going to make that worse. 2022 primaries is when we'll start to see them panic, because their media apparatus is falling apart. Without it, there will be space for a grassroots movement towards a 3rd party.

Even normies will see that the terms "racist" and "nazi" have been co-opted to mean Anything to the Right of Socialist Utopia. Eat the Bugs, you bigot.

It's gonna be a shitshow down south for the next 4 years. They'd have to Impeach 3 people for there to be any hope. First Biden, then Harris, and finally Pelosi. Those three've got enough collective pinkies in the right assholes that they could run every broadway show for years with just fingerpuppets.

What this means for the Great North remains to be seen. Because of the way seats are distributed, the only hope is that someone with balls takes the reins and gives fewer fucks than anyone we've seen since Ralph.

Speaking of Ralph, Alberta is most likely to be the spearhead for such a movement. BC is Vancouver's bitch, and so expect more NDP cuckoldry, Saskatchewan will use Alberta to gauge likelihood of success before they make a move.

Alberta has to make a move, and for that, Albertans have to be the ones to light the fire under the asses of the right people. Edmonton is more Orange than Calgary, to put that into perspective, so it looks pretty grim.