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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

It would prevent lockdowns because contact tracing would be fast and it would keep numbers of people that you infect low.

Unfortunately, if you do not have symptoms, you can still propagate the virus. There is a difference between pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic, but you can't know which one you are if you don't have any symptoms.

Asymptomatic people are people that will never have symptoms, and pre-symptomatic are people that will have symptoms, but don't at the moment.

If you're pre-symptomatic, you can spread the virus. Pre-symptomatic people could be responsible at around 40-45% of all cases iirc.

About the potential of abuse, like I said in other posts, is really low and not really viable (technically and economically) compared to using technologies that already exist.

I'm not sure what you mean by "staying power"? But unlike the flu, Covid-19 doesn't have any treatments. And the death rate of the flu is around 0.1%, For covid 19, it's hard to tell right now as it changes a lot from country to country, depending on testing, etc. But it's about 1% from what we know.

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idontknowcheck 0 points ago +1 / -1

What do you mean? You got confused or the police could be "confused"?

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, it's easy to say after all of that happened, but it looks like it's the case for a lot of other countries, no?

And why would he knowingly let a virus enter a country and cripple the economy, knowing that it's going to hurt his future election, just to make people install an app to track them when he could've just roll out known technology secretly (which are already available and in use) to spy on the people?

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Do you mean the customs let the virus in the country?

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

the app knows who you are

I'm not sure what you mean by that. It's on your phone, so I guess you could say any app on your phone "know who you are"?

that you were tested

Yes, if you input the code given to you by the health care system.

so there's an app link from your identity to a database

No, there are no links between your app/phone and the "main server".

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idontknowcheck 2 points ago +2 / -0

It's for contact tracing. So, the app exchanges code between phones when they are near each other (kind of).

Let's say my phone sends you a code because we were near each other. Then I test positive to covid after that. I can let someone in the health care system go in the "main program" and enter that I was found positive. Everyone that has one of my code in their phone will be alerted that they were near someone who was declared positive.

You can now go to test yourself too. That's faster than having people calling and doing manual contact tracing.

Contact tracing is important to keep the spread of the virus low.

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Security professionals". AKA : paid shills.

So, all security professionals are paid by the government?

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Actually, you can decompile pretty much anything....

You'll loose some information (comments, indentation, etc) and of course, you can't compare it 1 on 1 with the source code, but you can still see the code from the play / app store and look if there is any sneaky stuff.

You can also use tools such as WireShark and other proxy tools to see what is communicated between the app and the internet/servers.

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are saying that Trudeau intentionally allowed the covid-19 virus to enter Canada, so that they could make everybody install apps on their phones to spy on them?

I see a couple of problems with that statement. The first one being that if he "intentionally allowed the virus in", it means that "he" could've stopped it? Isn't health a provincial responsibility? So, it means that he plotted that with all the provinces of Canada?

Also, it means that it's just a mass conspiracy by virtually all countries in the world to "let the virus enter their countries" to make their citizens install an app to spy on them? Or is there other reasons to let the virus "intentionally enter a country"?

Wouldn't that be easier by other means, like what the NSA already did in the past? Like having backdoors on hardware that makes up the Internet. Or you know, maybe installing sting rays here and there to check on people's movements, facial recognitions on public cameras, etc.

Why would they make their citizens install an app, that is open source (so you can check the code) and works in such a way that makes it virtually not viable to track people with it VS secretly roll out technologies like the ones that already exists?

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idontknowcheck 1 point ago +1 / -0

This app is a different beast since its entire purpose - quite explicitly - is to physically track the user and other users around them.

It's not to "physically track the user and other users around them". It doesn't "track" users, it exchanges "keys" through Bluetooth. It can know if you were near other people only when a specific 'key' is 'published'.

You can look at the source code here: https://github.com/cds-snc/covid-alert-app

You can read on how it works here: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/covid-alert/privacy-policy/assessment.html#a6

There are easier way to really track people than with an app like this.

I think it would be useful if enough people download and use it, actually. That might prevent other lockdowns. But, no countries that released these kind of apps reached the amount needed (like 53% of the population using it or something like that). So we'll see...

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idontknowcheck 0 points ago +1 / -1

That app is open source, you can check the code... It's actually less "invasive" than apps like Facebook and the like.

Other than that, there are already available technologies to track your phones/you far more viable and easy to use by the police and governments than what someone could achieve with this app (like sting rays, for example). And there are probably others that you don't know about that the CSIS uses, so I don't know why they would make something public to "trick you" to install it and then use it against you when they can just use technologies you don't even know about.

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idontknowcheck -1 points ago +1 / -2

When people stop believing in something, they'll believe in anything Religion is the opium of the people

You can find quotes for anything!

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idontknowcheck 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's "during a riot or other unlawful assembly", not a "protest".