So you believe that covid is so ubiquitous that nearly the whole population is carrying it and therefore cannot contract influenza?
I wouldn't say nearly the whole population is carrying SARS-CoV-2 but there's no way that only 2.1% of Canadians have been infected with SARS-CoV-2. That number is way higher. It's just that most people with mild symptoms never bother to get tested. And asymptomatic people have no clue they have it unless they go get tested because they know they've been "exposed" to someone who did test positive.
Would that not imply, seeing as most are seemingly healthy, that covid is then not dangerous at all to the vast majority of the population?
It's statistical fact that SARS-CoV-2 is mild to asymptomatic for 95+% of the population. The case hospitalization rate in Ontario is 5%, the case fatality rate is 2.3%. And since May 24th when Ontario broadened the testing criteria, the hospitalization rate has been 4.2%, the ICU admission rate 0.7%, the fatality rate 1.8%. Before broadening the testing criteria on May 24th the hospitalization rate was 12.7%, ICU 2.8%, fatality rate 8.1%.
And there's a ton of people who have the virus who never got tested so the hospitalization and death rates are even lower than that. I suspect it's more like 99+% mild or asymptomatic but there is no way to know that unless the government ships every person an antibody testing kit and makes it mandatory to upload your results to the government every 14 days. But we don't live in that kind of police state... yet.
Would it not make more sense that influenza has been rebranded and continues to spread and like all years, is fatal to a select few? Could it not be possible that to make covid appear far more deadly and to justify further power grabs, that influenza infections and deaths are being added to this "novel" disease?
As for your theory, any results posted from 2018 or prior in mainstream media confirm that coinfection is common.
Back in the summer scientists including Fauci were warning about the possibility of flu and COVID-19 co-infection. So why on earth would the government be motivated to hide flu positive tests from the population when they were fearmongering about possible co-infections?
Do the two cold viruses you can get at the same time have around the same R0 value (basic reproduction number) though? SARS-CoV-2 has a much higher R0 value than seasonal influenza. Viruses with higher R0 values have a competitive advantage for resources (host cells).
The government would not deliberately destroy the economy for muh power or shit and giggles. Politicians are locking down because this is what the public wants. Canadians are the furthest thing from libertarians. We have a Nanny State culture in Canada. Even the USA has a nanny state culture in blue and purple states. Trump downplayed the virus and Trump lost many of the purple suburban swing voters. Polls are overwhelmingly in favor of the stay at home orders here in Ontario. BC just re-elected the NDP in late October.
The challenge that we are facing is a culture war against individual liberty. Our society is shifting too far into the direction of collectivism. In the old days people were able to accept that old people were going to die. But now we have a culture where people don't want to come to terms with their parents' mortality and we want to play God. What we have in society is not a science problem, what we have is a philosophical, moral problem. Our society decided to prioritize the old over the young, to have the old eat the young.
Go out there and have conversations with people in RL about lockdowns. Maybe in your bubble most people don't support lockdowns. But I know friends and family in RL who support lockdowns. I live in the suburbs. Maybe you live in some small town or rural area in Quebec where it's different. But the suburbs here are full of Karens who are terrified of the prospect of their parents dying from COVID. And in the urban metropolitan areas like mine (Toronto) we get a ton of seats in the legislature. Libertarianism is an alien ideology in Canada. We have a culture where people turn to the government to solve their problems. In the midst of a public health emergency, instead of doing whatever it takes to keep their parents safe or themselves safe if they themselves are scared, they want to have the government force other people by gunpoint to stay home so that they feel safe. Instead of obese diabetic people losing some weight and eating right to lower their blood sugar, they want the government to force other people to stay home to keep them safe.
And you don't have any understanding of macro-economics. Running a huge deficit is a political risk for Trudeau and other politicians. It's not something to take lightly. Huge deficits are going to result in a lot of austerity and/or inflation in the future. It's a huge gamble politically. Trudeau, Ford, Legault, etc. did what they did because they felt their hand was forced from public pressure. Trudeau was afraid that the opposing parties would bring down his minority government if he didn't roll out the CERB/CRB/CEBA/EI expansions or put in place the travel restrictions. Ford, Legault, Pallister, Kenney, etc. were afraid they would lose in the next provincial election if they didn't lock down.
Bankrupting the country is essential for the next step.
Oh yes the "Great Reset".
Ultimatley, you still believe our representatives have our best interests at heart and are doinf the best they can with the hand they've been dealt. That's not the case.
I didn't say that. Our representatives care first and foremost about getting re-elected. And to do that in Ontario and probably in your Quebec too you have to win the suburbs. Who is the typical suburban voter? 40-50 year old married homeowner who is terrified of their parents catching the WuFlu and doesn't appear to mind the staycation for now. Most people are T4 wagecucks and don't own a small business that's getting destroyed by the lockdowns. Fucking 77% of men 18-34 in Ontario polled being for the stay at home order. Probably because a growing number of young men are incels with no life who are content to just stay home and watch Netflix, play video games, eat UberEats, jerk off to OnlyFans and blacked, etc. while collecting a $1800/month direct deposit from the government. The irony is that women 18-34 are slightly more opposed to lockdowns than young men according to the polls. I bet you the 17% of women 18-34 who disagree with the stay at home order all want to ride that Chad and Tyrone cock carousel in their prime. But middle-aged women (35-54) are more supportive of lockdowns than middle-aged men because they've already been ran threw or they married a beta or something and have become resigned to staying at home and watching Netflix and ordering UberEats with hubby.
I wouldn't say nearly the whole population is carrying SARS-CoV-2 but there's no way that only 2.1% of Canadians have been infected with SARS-CoV-2. That number is way higher. It's just that most people with mild symptoms never bother to get tested. And asymptomatic people have no clue they have it unless they go get tested because they know they've been "exposed" to someone who did test positive.
It's statistical fact that SARS-CoV-2 is mild to asymptomatic for 95+% of the population. The case hospitalization rate in Ontario is 5%, the case fatality rate is 2.3%. And since May 24th when Ontario broadened the testing criteria, the hospitalization rate has been 4.2%, the ICU admission rate 0.7%, the fatality rate 1.8%. Before broadening the testing criteria on May 24th the hospitalization rate was 12.7%, ICU 2.8%, fatality rate 8.1%.
And there's a ton of people who have the virus who never got tested so the hospitalization and death rates are even lower than that. I suspect it's more like 99+% mild or asymptomatic but there is no way to know that unless the government ships every person an antibody testing kit and makes it mandatory to upload your results to the government every 14 days. But we don't live in that kind of police state... yet.
Back in the summer scientists including Fauci were warning about the possibility of flu and COVID-19 co-infection. So why on earth would the government be motivated to hide flu positive tests from the population when they were fearmongering about possible co-infections?
Do the two cold viruses you can get at the same time have around the same R0 value (basic reproduction number) though? SARS-CoV-2 has a much higher R0 value than seasonal influenza. Viruses with higher R0 values have a competitive advantage for resources (host cells).
The government would not deliberately destroy the economy for muh power or shit and giggles. Politicians are locking down because this is what the public wants. Canadians are the furthest thing from libertarians. We have a Nanny State culture in Canada. Even the USA has a nanny state culture in blue and purple states. Trump downplayed the virus and Trump lost many of the purple suburban swing voters. Polls are overwhelmingly in favor of the stay at home orders here in Ontario. BC just re-elected the NDP in late October.
The challenge that we are facing is a culture war against individual liberty. Our society is shifting too far into the direction of collectivism. In the old days people were able to accept that old people were going to die. But now we have a culture where people don't want to come to terms with their parents' mortality and we want to play God. What we have in society is not a science problem, what we have is a philosophical, moral problem. Our society decided to prioritize the old over the young, to have the old eat the young.
Go out there and have conversations with people in RL about lockdowns. Maybe in your bubble most people don't support lockdowns. But I know friends and family in RL who support lockdowns. I live in the suburbs. Maybe you live in some small town or rural area in Quebec where it's different. But the suburbs here are full of Karens who are terrified of the prospect of their parents dying from COVID. And in the urban metropolitan areas like mine (Toronto) we get a ton of seats in the legislature. Libertarianism is an alien ideology in Canada. We have a culture where people turn to the government to solve their problems. In the midst of a public health emergency, instead of doing whatever it takes to keep their parents safe or themselves safe if they themselves are scared, they want to have the government force other people by gunpoint to stay home so that they feel safe. Instead of obese diabetic people losing some weight and eating right to lower their blood sugar, they want the government to force other people to stay home to keep them safe.
And you don't have any understanding of macro-economics. Running a huge deficit is a political risk for Trudeau and other politicians. It's not something to take lightly. Huge deficits are going to result in a lot of austerity and/or inflation in the future. It's a huge gamble politically. Trudeau, Ford, Legault, etc. did what they did because they felt their hand was forced from public pressure. Trudeau was afraid that the opposing parties would bring down his minority government if he didn't roll out the CERB/CRB/CEBA/EI expansions or put in place the travel restrictions. Ford, Legault, Pallister, Kenney, etc. were afraid they would lose in the next provincial election if they didn't lock down.
Oh yes the "Great Reset".
I didn't say that. Our representatives care first and foremost about getting re-elected. And to do that in Ontario and probably in your Quebec too you have to win the suburbs. Who is the typical suburban voter? 40-50 year old married homeowner who is terrified of their parents catching the WuFlu and doesn't appear to mind the staycation for now. Most people are T4 wagecucks and don't own a small business that's getting destroyed by the lockdowns. Fucking 77% of men 18-34 in Ontario polled being for the stay at home order. Probably because a growing number of young men are incels with no life who are content to just stay home and watch Netflix, play video games, eat UberEats, jerk off to OnlyFans and blacked, etc. while collecting a $1800/month direct deposit from the government. The irony is that women 18-34 are slightly more opposed to lockdowns than young men according to the polls. I bet you the 17% of women 18-34 who disagree with the stay at home order all want to ride that Chad and Tyrone cock carousel in their prime. But middle-aged women (35-54) are more supportive of lockdowns than middle-aged men because they've already been ran threw or they married a beta or something and have become resigned to staying at home and watching Netflix and ordering UberEats with hubby.