Regarding the flood? Pretty much all of it, but unless you can explain to me how Noah had the ability to round up tigers and penguins and polar bears and other animals that literally exist in different areas of the world. Do I have to explain the logistics of this? I doubt we could even do this today without leveraging modern technology.
It's far more plausible that this is a story based on a local event, not a global catastrophe. If you want to believe that the world's most advanced mobile zoo existed in ancient times, that's fine. i don't have a problem with the Bible, but I am not going to take everything in it literally.
it takes longer than a few thousand years to speciate organisms like mammals and reptiles. The fossil record shows that even dogs existed prior to the flood. I don't want to take the 'atheist' position as I am NOT an atheist, but I am not going to treat old writings from the Bronze Age as historical fact when they contradict the evidence we see. If you want to believe that, that's fine. I don't want to change your mind either, I just thought I would let you know that I don't agree.
I said that it takes thousands of years to SPECIATE an animal (create a new species). This has nothing to do with breed. Dogs are a subspecies, meaning they can still mate with wolves and coyotes. They have not become a separate species even after 10k years of selective breeding.
The genetic distance required to do this naturally takes a long time. Our closest cousin, the bonobo/chimpanzee shares an ancestor with the human, but that ancestor lives hundreds of thousands if not a million or more years ago
The fossil record shows that humans are increasing in size, not decreasing. We can even dig up corpses from 500 years ago to compare.
The size of an organism likely has more to do with the survivability in their environment over time than anything else. I have read Darwin's work and it more or less still holds up today.
Regarding the flood? Pretty much all of it, but unless you can explain to me how Noah had the ability to round up tigers and penguins and polar bears and other animals that literally exist in different areas of the world. Do I have to explain the logistics of this? I doubt we could even do this today without leveraging modern technology.
It's far more plausible that this is a story based on a local event, not a global catastrophe. If you want to believe that the world's most advanced mobile zoo existed in ancient times, that's fine. i don't have a problem with the Bible, but I am not going to take everything in it literally.
it takes longer than a few thousand years to speciate organisms like mammals and reptiles. The fossil record shows that even dogs existed prior to the flood. I don't want to take the 'atheist' position as I am NOT an atheist, but I am not going to treat old writings from the Bronze Age as historical fact when they contradict the evidence we see. If you want to believe that, that's fine. I don't want to change your mind either, I just thought I would let you know that I don't agree.
I said that it takes thousands of years to SPECIATE an animal (create a new species). This has nothing to do with breed. Dogs are a subspecies, meaning they can still mate with wolves and coyotes. They have not become a separate species even after 10k years of selective breeding.
The genetic distance required to do this naturally takes a long time. Our closest cousin, the bonobo/chimpanzee shares an ancestor with the human, but that ancestor lives hundreds of thousands if not a million or more years ago
The fossil record shows that humans are increasing in size, not decreasing. We can even dig up corpses from 500 years ago to compare.
The size of an organism likely has more to do with the survivability in their environment over time than anything else. I have read Darwin's work and it more or less still holds up today.