Omegacanada census 2021: What is your party affiliation?
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Canada doesnt have a party system. They have one government and one ruler and the illusion of a democratic party system. The parties have the same immigration, feminism, GBA+, climate change bullshit and economic policies. It doesnt matter which one you vote for as they all support the exact same things and take orders from the same people. And as the parties are dictatorships whereby the leader rules and all vote party line or get removed, it doesnt matter if you can point to one "good conservative" or whatever party you want. The leaders are installed through the crooked party voting system where outsiders can join at any time before the leadership vote and then mass vote their candidate. Once installed, they own the party and all policy and messaging. Very easy to do and easy to prove has been done in past and present. You are offered the choice between different shit sandwiches and are supposed to pretend at the end of the day your choice matters when you are eating shit no matter what. States at least have significant autonomy to run themselves beyond federal influence and who you choose to govern there matters a lot more. The president can be chosen to an extent (still extremely curated group of candidates though). They at least have a glimmer of hope they can pick someone that might help them. Our government is a joke played on the people and anyone that thinks theres a difference between any of them is delusional.
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That's not really true at all. In the US it's somewhat true (i.e. when it comes to the party establishments) because of the amount of money in their politics (i.e. the same corporate interests buying influence from both parties in every election, effectively rendering them identical to each other on the affected issues), but we don't have that in Canada to nearly the extent that they have it in the US. In fact for the most part, the vast majority of corruption is contained within one party up here.
This is what I keep trying to tell people, but everyone refuses to understand:
The parties have similar policies because that's what the electorate wants. Each party is polling the electorate on issues, and then tailoring their platforms to maximize their share of the vote. This is how electioneering works.
A major party is not going to campaign on wildly unpopular policy positions. Because that's a losing strategy. And a party's job is, first and foremost, to get elected.
You have to ask yourself, do I want this right-wing party to tell me what I want to hear and then lose the election as a result because those opinions are unpopular? Or do I want them to say whatever they have to say to get into office, and then worry about how they're actually going to govern?
Everyone's supposed to know that parties will say whatever they have to to get elected and then only actually deliver on some of it (if any). How has everyone on the right suddenly forgotten this when the conservatives started telling swing voters and Liberals what they want to hear?
Edit. That's right folks, just downvote the cold hard political reality and it won't be true anymore. Just stick with the "Dreams can come true if you just believe in yourself" approach your mom taught you. Cuz that totally works in real world electoral politics.
While we're at it, here's another redpill for you guys to choke on:
If the PPC's ideas were ever to become electable, the CPC would be running on them. Because the major parties keep up with the prevailing political winds. That's why they have leadership elections every few years and policy conventions every year. And that's why in over 150 years, only the two major parties (under various names) have ever governed, while the minor parties have come and gone, having never won an election. That's the way it's always been and the way it's always gonna be. Because that's how it works. The major parties change to cater to the changing electorate, leaving no room for underdog to come from behind and win.
CPC agenda = LPC agenda. Ergo the only valid choice is PPC.
Except the PPC is never going to win. You might as well roll your ballot up and smoke it. That's the opposite of a "valid choice".
Also, Bernier is a massive, pro-immigration cuck who's just telling you what you want to hear so you'll keep mailing those cheques in.
https://globalnews.ca/video/3110859/dont-need-this-karaoke-version-of-donald-trump-maxime-bernier-on-kellie-leitch
So you want me to throw my support behind O'Toole because BERNIER is the cuck? O'Toole wouldn't dare show his face at an anti-lockdown protest.
The truth is the Canadians have been fucked by conservative governments. Doug Ford and Jason Kenney have completely alienated their voter base and they will likely lose re-election to Liberals/NDP respectively. I could also see this happening in Manitoba as well. The CCP (excuse me, CPC) tries their best to impersonate the Liberal platform to coerce the stupid normie centrists, but it won't work. Haven't you read the news? MSM message: Conservative = Trump supporter = White supremacist. The brand is dead.
And good riddance too. Conservative leaders are looking for validation from the crazy left instead of calling it out. They would prefer to participate in lies because they want to be spared the political guillotine for engaging in 'wrongthink'
Cowards like O'Toole are not the way forward. At least Bernier has the courage to speak the truth.
It's a real simple question you have to ask yourself: Do you want to be ruled over by Justin Trudeau for another four years?
Trump, the PPC, "white supremacists", none of that shit matters. It just boils down to whether you want to kick Trudeau out of office or hand him another four years. Because those are the only two possible outcomes. You have to pick one.
Why does it matter who the PM is when the policies are the same?
Erin O'Toole is a climate alarmist. He said so himself, "the debate is over."
He also supports the current COVID madness and current Con provincial governments (who could do something about it) already give us an example of how Conservatives will govern federally. Jason Kenney and Doug Ford are every bit as bad as Trudeau (if not moreso)
I find Trudeau to be reprehensible, but the real problems are the government policy positions and the CPC has no intention of changing those. They just want to be the ones at the trough. No thanks, Erin.
No, he's trying to convince an electorate who are overwhelmingly climate alarmists to vote for him. There's a big difference.
Why is this so hard to understand? Would you rather he did it Max's way and end up with 1-2% of the vote?
You live in a country that's currently gripped by at least three concurrent moral panics: "Global warming", "muh huwhite supremacy" and the commievirus. And most Canadians are neck deep in the mass syteria of all three. The electorate in this country are completely irrational. But their votes still count.
Why are you people so dense?
https://i.imgur.com/TwIedao.png
This is why I suspect some of you are actually Liberal shills just trying to shave points off of the CPC. It boggles the mind that people could so consistently fail to grasp such simple concepts.
Yes, it is.
I'll vote for whoever has enough balls enough to stand up and say I'll do whatever the hell I want to do because you're all a bunch of peons after election time. That's an honest man.
All parties are following the global agenda to a tee so it doesn't matter which ass sits in the prime minister's chair.
OOpsie... another poll!
Ontario
Y no NDP?
I think your tinfoil hat is on a bit tight there bud.
How is that any different than just commenting in support of your party here or anywhere else?
Because TruDOPE and O'Fool are totes gonna round up all the PPC voters and put them in reeducation camps! And when they do THIS will be the evidence used!
It won’t load over my VPN for the record. I was planning to fill it out
"Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong."
Which explains this and this.
YOU PEOPLE are the ones who started this stupid war, not me.
Nope.
Here's me 48 hours after Max quit the CPC to start his own party, politely explaining the mathematical impossibility of this venture, and getting called a "cuck", a "CINO shill" and a "Fucking idiot" by Bernier supporters in return.
You guys started that shit immediately after Bernier split off, and this war has been raging ever since.
I gradually stopped responding to the vitriol with politeness, and here we are.
Oh and where has all this hate and conflict gotten you? Still at rock bottom with zero seats and 2% of the vote.
That's how you react to someone politely explaining to you that it's mathematically impossible for Bernier's party to win? And you're trying to blame me for the hostility around here?
You are truly fucked in the head. You know that, right?
It went exactly as planned.