Then you should have stayed with the CPC and voted in their leadership election.
For that matter, so should Bernier. His popularity in the party only increased after the 2017 leadership race (as people came to the realization that Scheer was a dud). If he'd stuck with the CPC, kept doing what he was doing, kept his name in the headlines for all the right reasons, he'd have been a shoo-in for the 2020 leadership race.
Instead, he committed political suicide out of anger and spite. And now you guys have no voice in parliament whatsoever, let alone any prospect of your guy ever becoming PM. I don't understand how you're not pissed off at Bernier for that. He took all your dreams and flushed them down the toilet by going off on his own.
There is no hope of reform for the CPC, with or without Bernier. The CPC leader isn't some sort of God-Emperor, whoever has that position is beholden to their globalist masters. The CPC sold out just like the Liberals did.
As such, it makes no difference which of the major parties are running Canada, they will all take marching orders from the global elites.
This is why we see so-called 'conservative' governments acting like leftists in Ontario, Alberta and Manitoba. They have all sold out for their own benefit and do not care about their constituents.
So feel free to push the CPC as the 'alternative' but in reality it will get us to the same place as voting for PM Socks and the Liberals or if you prefer a more communist branding, Singh and the NDP.
LOL of course there is. That's why real parties have leadership elections every couple of years. Just because you didn't like the outcomes of the last two leadership elections doesn't mean it's the end of the party.
You're acting like this is some sort of unprecedented territory. But it isn't. You're just the millionth naive fringe-party supporting individual to say "There's no hope for the [insert major party]. The [insert fringe party]'s day has finally come".
Except it hasn't come. It never does. These parties come and go, and their supporters make all these same noises every time, and then those parties peter out having never come anywhere close to winning an election. Rinse and repeat. Meanwhile, elections continue to be won by one of the two major parties, as has been the case in every single federal election in Canadian history. And if you think the PPC, with their low single-digit percentile support, are going to be the first party to finally break that 150 year old pattern, you're lying to yourself. That's like betting on winning the lottery. Wrose, in fact. Because at least it's actually possible to win the lottery.
I think you have this misguided idea that the leader can dictate the party's positions like a king. It's quite obvious that this isn't the case. it's like you ignored the entire first part of my post.
I sure would love to hear from you on why all of the Canadian 'conservative' governments in the provinces are in complete lockstep with their leftist counterparts. Even Harper acolyte 'Mr. Human Rights' Jason Kenney is basically a socialist dictator.
Ok here's the catch here, I have no antipathy towards you and I don't agree with the disrespect towards you I respect your libertarian/centrist stance towards PPC and etc.. but what the community is saying to YOU is basically that this country will fail to be same.. don't you think that the Liberals are ripped this nation apart and have made everything just difficult for example with refugees.. I DON'T have a problem with those seeking a better life Syrian war was awfully saddening so chill out im ON YOUR side however..
the liberals have weaponized those "dreamers" to further their cabalistic agenda many area's of the nation are going bankrupt because of the liberal governments policy and spending money on the newcomers who need a lot to get them on their feet like a work permit and car etc.. and then not to mention some people are subverting the system to get in the country you just need a certain amount of money and you can literally move into the country this country isint easy leme remind you and the moronic government is making it difficult to live here.
Another issue is the fact this country is just walked over upon we literally have Chinese millionaires buying houses and then reselling them at insane fking prices (ex Vancouver,GTA) and then there are many videos from south asians (Indians,Pakistanis) talking about how to get into the country and whatnot and they come here easy and have friends to make it easy for them when the move here.
So my conclusion here is that the rampant racism on here is because radicalization created by these circumstances within the country and naive white Canadians are being indoctrinated into being racists/neonazis etc... and unless this is resolved alt's will just continue being made everyone should be a Canadian and Hug it out I don't know what to say.. we're fighting over something ridiculous people are just mad because PPC fans and Hamsandwich are fighting a war for months on end and the alt's being made are insane.. so please everyone leave HamSandwich alone and stop this trolling take it to 4chan or somewhere else
We'd be fine if you we had more representation across the country. A one man army won't do much but get MPs from allover Canada and eventually the PPC will have legitimate party status. These things take time.
Then you should have stayed with the CPC and voted in their leadership election.
For that matter, so should Bernier. His popularity in the party only increased after the 2017 leadership race (as people came to the realization that Scheer was a dud). If he'd stuck with the CPC, kept doing what he was doing, kept his name in the headlines for all the right reasons, he'd have been a shoo-in for the 2020 leadership race.
Instead, he committed political suicide out of anger and spite. And now you guys have no voice in parliament whatsoever, let alone any prospect of your guy ever becoming PM. I don't understand how you're not pissed off at Bernier for that. He took all your dreams and flushed them down the toilet by going off on his own.
You encouraged the community to become PPC founding members.
There is no hope of reform for the CPC, with or without Bernier. The CPC leader isn't some sort of God-Emperor, whoever has that position is beholden to their globalist masters. The CPC sold out just like the Liberals did.
As such, it makes no difference which of the major parties are running Canada, they will all take marching orders from the global elites.
This is why we see so-called 'conservative' governments acting like leftists in Ontario, Alberta and Manitoba. They have all sold out for their own benefit and do not care about their constituents.
So feel free to push the CPC as the 'alternative' but in reality it will get us to the same place as voting for PM Socks and the Liberals or if you prefer a more communist branding, Singh and the NDP.
LOL of course there is. That's why real parties have leadership elections every couple of years. Just because you didn't like the outcomes of the last two leadership elections doesn't mean it's the end of the party.
You're acting like this is some sort of unprecedented territory. But it isn't. You're just the millionth naive fringe-party supporting individual to say "There's no hope for the [insert major party]. The [insert fringe party]'s day has finally come".
Except it hasn't come. It never does. These parties come and go, and their supporters make all these same noises every time, and then those parties peter out having never come anywhere close to winning an election. Rinse and repeat. Meanwhile, elections continue to be won by one of the two major parties, as has been the case in every single federal election in Canadian history. And if you think the PPC, with their low single-digit percentile support, are going to be the first party to finally break that 150 year old pattern, you're lying to yourself. That's like betting on winning the lottery. Wrose, in fact. Because at least it's actually possible to win the lottery.
I think you have this misguided idea that the leader can dictate the party's positions like a king. It's quite obvious that this isn't the case. it's like you ignored the entire first part of my post.
I sure would love to hear from you on why all of the Canadian 'conservative' governments in the provinces are in complete lockstep with their leftist counterparts. Even Harper acolyte 'Mr. Human Rights' Jason Kenney is basically a socialist dictator.
Ok here's the catch here, I have no antipathy towards you and I don't agree with the disrespect towards you I respect your libertarian/centrist stance towards PPC and etc.. but what the community is saying to YOU is basically that this country will fail to be same.. don't you think that the Liberals are ripped this nation apart and have made everything just difficult for example with refugees.. I DON'T have a problem with those seeking a better life Syrian war was awfully saddening so chill out im ON YOUR side however..
the liberals have weaponized those "dreamers" to further their cabalistic agenda many area's of the nation are going bankrupt because of the liberal governments policy and spending money on the newcomers who need a lot to get them on their feet like a work permit and car etc.. and then not to mention some people are subverting the system to get in the country you just need a certain amount of money and you can literally move into the country this country isint easy leme remind you and the moronic government is making it difficult to live here.
Another issue is the fact this country is just walked over upon we literally have Chinese millionaires buying houses and then reselling them at insane fking prices (ex Vancouver,GTA) and then there are many videos from south asians (Indians,Pakistanis) talking about how to get into the country and whatnot and they come here easy and have friends to make it easy for them when the move here.
So my conclusion here is that the rampant racism on here is because radicalization created by these circumstances within the country and naive white Canadians are being indoctrinated into being racists/neonazis etc... and unless this is resolved alt's will just continue being made everyone should be a Canadian and Hug it out I don't know what to say.. we're fighting over something ridiculous people are just mad because PPC fans and Hamsandwich are fighting a war for months on end and the alt's being made are insane.. so please everyone leave HamSandwich alone and stop this trolling take it to 4chan or somewhere else
Well that's the idea. This place is basically 4chan north. I'm specifically trying to change that.
We'd be fine if you we had more representation across the country. A one man army won't do much but get MPs from allover Canada and eventually the PPC will have legitimate party status. These things take time.
Hew came within a cunt hair of beating Scheer and Max's popularity only increased after that.
You're telling yourself he never could have won because you have to believe that in order to not hate him for fucking it all up.
He's saying it would not have mattered...
Logically if Bernier came that close to winning, there should still be elements in the CPC that want to head in that direction....
Okay. So why didn't Sloan or someone like him get closer to winning?...
Why did Erin win?
The CPC is moving Left, possibly even Far Left.