So when do these "private businesses" start forcing women to cover up, for their safety from the evil men in the store?
And I love that we went back 60 yrs to 2 types of citizens
.... this fountain for masked/vaxxer and this fountain for the rest of you evil gramma killing non-vaxxer/nonmasker....
Woohoo I love the progress in 2021..
Keep tugging Jack, businesses have no duty to enforce wearing a mask. They have no authority. Since when does a business go out of their way to remove customers from their store. This is retarded. The owner needs to follow pre-existing laws and protect their employees the best they can. You act like the measures employees have now aren’t more than enough to protect staff. Ffs these staff are behind plastic barriers these days. Refer to fuck off.
You just stated the obvious. But we aren’t taking about racial or religious discrimination here. The issue is masks. And it is quite obvious businesses are supposed operate in accordance with applicable laws.
Is there a law that says they can’t refuse people who don’t wear masks? Businesses have been doing just this for over a year. Wearing or not wearing a mask is not generally protected by discrimination or other laws. To compare mask wearing (or not) to obvious protected classes is disingenuous at best and perhaps even negligent. Making absurd comparisons does not help an argument. If you want to argue further cite legislation which purports to support your position. I will spend time to research it and respond.
If you want to argue further cite legislation which purports to support your position. I will spend time to research it and respond.
Business owners are required to convey that people who enter their premises are masked. However that is only half of the law. The other half of the law is that there are exceptions. Those exceptions include medical (whether they be physical or psychological, difficulty putting on a mask, and any grounds under the various human rights codes under the provinces including religions and creeds). If a patron says, "I'm exempt", businesses have absolutely no right to demand proof.
Reopening Ontario A Flexible Response to COVID-19 Act, 2020. This law applies across Ontario and prevails over any municipal bylaw that contradicts this regulation.
Exemptions under the act relevant to this case include:
(4)(g) has a medical condition that inhibits their ability to wear a mask or face covering;
(h) is unable to put on or remove their mask or face covering without the assistance of another person;
(j) is being accommodated in accordance with the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act, 2005;
(k) ** is being reasonably accommodated in accordance with the Human Rights Code**
The Trespass to Property Act of Ontario DOES NOT apply when exercising masking exemption since the act states:
Trespass an offence 2 (1) Every person who is not acting under a right or authority conferred by law...is guilty of an offense.
It is trespassing if the owner asks you to leave ONLY IF you are there NOT acting under a right or authority conferred by law. Exercising masking exemption IS a right conferred by law.
It is certainly not retarded and it may be a simplified generalization but not overly so. This forum is not one where citing laws and regulations would make much sense. And only a pedant would say something like ‘well they have to follow the law.’ That goes without saying. The question is whether in general it would be illegal for a business to require customers to wear a mask. And the answer is no. Are there exceptions? There may be. But they are few.
It is certainly not retarded and it may be a simplified generalization but not overly so. This forum is not one where citing laws and regulations would make much sense. And only a pedant would say something like ‘well they have to follow the law.’ That goes without saying. The question is whether in general it would be illegal for a business to require customers to wear a mask. And the answer is no. Are there exceptions? There may be, as you allude to above. But they are few.
In Canada businesses operate under license from their province.
In both USA and Canada not even private businesses selling goods and services can deny service based on a protected group, ie race, religion, sex, sexuality, disabilities, etc.
Mask medical exemption falls under the category of discrimination against those with disabilities. In Canada you do not need to provide proof, I'm unsure of the USA.
If a private store has a policy that might impact on certain protected groups they have to at least provide reasonable accommodation; in some cases reasonable accommodation is still too discriminatory so normal accommodation must be provided.
However in the case of individuals not claiming medical exemption and who are instead rejecting store policy without the protection of discrimination laws, then that would probably be a case where a private business's policy is not regulated by license and the business can reserve their right to refuse service in that case.
So when do these "private businesses" start forcing women to cover up, for their safety from the evil men in the store? And I love that we went back 60 yrs to 2 types of citizens .... this fountain for masked/vaxxer and this fountain for the rest of you evil gramma killing non-vaxxer/nonmasker.... Woohoo I love the progress in 2021..
Private business can do whatever the fuck they want.
They have a duty to protect staff from idiots like you that lie about being vaccinated.
Refer to #1
Keep tugging Jack, businesses have no duty to enforce wearing a mask. They have no authority. Since when does a business go out of their way to remove customers from their store. This is retarded. The owner needs to follow pre-existing laws and protect their employees the best they can. You act like the measures employees have now aren’t more than enough to protect staff. Ffs these staff are behind plastic barriers these days. Refer to fuck off.
You fags are such hypocrites.
Pro private property and free market until it happens to inconvenience you. Then you go crying to your government to do something.
Fragile White Conservatives in a nutshell
Private businesses can't say "NO SIKHS! NO WOMEN! NO GAYS! NO CRIPPLES! NO ITALIANS!"
Private businesses still operate under the law.
You just stated the obvious. But we aren’t taking about racial or religious discrimination here. The issue is masks. And it is quite obvious businesses are supposed operate in accordance with applicable laws.
Is there a law that says they can’t refuse people who don’t wear masks? Businesses have been doing just this for over a year. Wearing or not wearing a mask is not generally protected by discrimination or other laws. To compare mask wearing (or not) to obvious protected classes is disingenuous at best and perhaps even negligent. Making absurd comparisons does not help an argument. If you want to argue further cite legislation which purports to support your position. I will spend time to research it and respond.
Business owners are required to convey that people who enter their premises are masked. However that is only half of the law. The other half of the law is that there are exceptions. Those exceptions include medical (whether they be physical or psychological, difficulty putting on a mask, and any grounds under the various human rights codes under the provinces including religions and creeds). If a patron says, "I'm exempt", businesses have absolutely no right to demand proof.
Reopening Ontario A Flexible Response to COVID-19 Act, 2020. This law applies across Ontario and prevails over any municipal bylaw that contradicts this regulation.
Exemptions under the act relevant to this case include:
(4)(g) has a medical condition that inhibits their ability to wear a mask or face covering;
(h) is unable to put on or remove their mask or face covering without the assistance of another person;
(j) is being accommodated in accordance with the Accessibility for Ontarians with Disabilities Act, 2005;
(k) ** is being reasonably accommodated in accordance with the Human Rights Code**
The Trespass to Property Act of Ontario DOES NOT apply when exercising masking exemption since the act states:
Trespass an offence 2 (1) Every person who is not acting under a right or authority conferred by law...is guilty of an offense.
It is trespassing if the owner asks you to leave ONLY IF you are there NOT acting under a right or authority conferred by law. Exercising masking exemption IS a right conferred by law.
Thanks. Where is section 4(g) from? It’s not from the Act you cited.
About your point #2, Walmart and Costco don’t have this duty:
[https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/14/walmart-customers-employees-who-are-vaccinated-wont-need-to-wear-masks.html] (https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/05/14/walmart-customers-employees-who-are-vaccinated-wont-need-to-wear-masks.html)
No right thinking knowledgeable person would disputeyour first point.
You have no clue whether people that post here lie about being vaccinated
These will likely be the same employers who require their employees to be vaccinated. So no real risk.
Look for David Hogg’s tweet - he suggested he didn’t want to go maskless for fear of being seen as a conservative.
The stupidity runs deep.
It is certainly not retarded and it may be a simplified generalization but not overly so. This forum is not one where citing laws and regulations would make much sense. And only a pedant would say something like ‘well they have to follow the law.’ That goes without saying. The question is whether in general it would be illegal for a business to require customers to wear a mask. And the answer is no. Are there exceptions? There may be. But they are few.
No. It’s substantially correct. There is no basis to claim a private business does not have the right to require masks.
Sure they can make that policy. But they still have to respect exemptions. They can't "do whatever the fuck they want".
Yes it is.
It is certainly not retarded and it may be a simplified generalization but not overly so. This forum is not one where citing laws and regulations would make much sense. And only a pedant would say something like ‘well they have to follow the law.’ That goes without saying. The question is whether in general it would be illegal for a business to require customers to wear a mask. And the answer is no. Are there exceptions? There may be, as you allude to above. But they are few.
In Canada businesses operate under license from their province.
In both USA and Canada not even private businesses selling goods and services can deny service based on a protected group, ie race, religion, sex, sexuality, disabilities, etc.
Mask medical exemption falls under the category of discrimination against those with disabilities. In Canada you do not need to provide proof, I'm unsure of the USA.
If a private store has a policy that might impact on certain protected groups they have to at least provide reasonable accommodation; in some cases reasonable accommodation is still too discriminatory so normal accommodation must be provided.
However in the case of individuals not claiming medical exemption and who are instead rejecting store policy without the protection of discrimination laws, then that would probably be a case where a private business's policy is not regulated by license and the business can reserve their right to refuse service in that case.
Lowes pro desk would need to return phone calls if they want to actually make sales......