America didnt lose a single battle in Vietnam. A few thousand men vs couple million communists and only a handful of skirmishes could be considered a loss where they were forced to retreat. They only lost in the newspapers and television and the modern day people running covid and trump propaganda campaigns are the same people that owned and ran the msm back then.
The 'war' in the middle east also saw no major losses and is a complete success. Your definition of success, however, is not the same as the very select group that pushed for and made the war in the ME happen. They also are the same group of people that own the media. America became the leader in oil production worldwide and a net exporter. CIA gained control of the poppy fields. Gold was pillaged and central banks installed in multiple countries that were holdouts or attempting to break away from the banking system. Trillions of dollars went missing and wide sweeping authoritarian laws for propaganda, survellience of civilians and monitoring all walks of life were able to pass legislation uncontested and persist 20 years later. Syria has given up the Golan Heights and other major territory that Israel now owns. That specific area was scouted for major reserves that are now Israel owned and controlled. Syria was also going to be a major pipeline into Europe and Asia. That is scuttled along with Yemen's. Now all EU and Asian oil is monopolized and goes through Israel owned pipelines up through Gaza and the Mediterranean. Mass immigration was commercialized along with slave trades due to the refugee crisis created in Yemen, Syria and surrounding area that was used in combination with immigration laws and lobbying to flood EU and NA.
There are countless things that occur in the middle east as byproducts of the endless war they have created. It is endless by design. It's only a loss by conventional definitions and misguided beliefs on why they are there.
America didnt lose a single battle in Vietnam. A few thousand men vs couple million communists and only a handful of skirmishes could be considered a loss where they were forced to retreat. They only lost in the newspapers and television and the modern day people running covid and trump propaganda campaigns are the same people that owned and ran the msm back then.
The 'war' in the middle east also saw no major losses and is a complete success. Your definition of success, however, is not the same as the very select group that pushed for and made the war in the ME happen. They also are the same group of people that own the media. America became the leader in oil production worldwide and a net exporter. CIA gained control of the poppy fields. Gold was pillaged and central banks installed in multiple countries that were holdouts or attempting to break away from the banking system. Trillions of dollars went missing and wide sweeping authoritarian laws for propaganda, survellience of civilians and monitoring all walks of life were able to pass legislation uncontested and persist 20 years later. Syria has given up the Golan Heights and other major territory that Israel now owns. That specific area was scouted for major reserves that are now Israel owned and controlled. Syria was also going to be a major pipeline into Europe and Asia. That is scuttled along with Yemen's. Now all EU and Asian oil is monopolized and goes through Israel owned pipelines up through Gaza and the Mediterranean. Mass immigration was commercialized along with slave trades due to the refugee crisis created in Yemen, Syria and surrounding area that was used in combination with immigration laws and lobbying to flood EU and NA.
There are countless things that occur in the middle east as byproducts of the endless war they have created. It is endless by design. It's only a loss by conventional definitions and misguided beliefs on why they are there.
Doesn't both Israel and Norway have compulsory military service? I think you can exempt by paying extra tax?