At this point, nothing you provide, even if it comes from the CTV/CBC Gospel itself, will ever change their freaky little minds.
I got in a fight with a family member on Friday over Vax adverse reactions when they demanded to know if we were vaxxed. My wife quoted CBC/CTV articles at the time to back it up. They had the nerve to ignore the links my wife sent during the vid call.
We won't be visiting that family member when we go to NB this week.
The way I approach it is I tell the person that on a global perspective, I believe it's essential people get vaccinated. Weak, vulnerable, old people need the protection from covid more than the vaccine's side effects. But there is also an individual component, where I factor in the risks of taking the vaccine, which might be little or hypothetical, but do hold weight in f my decision. Since I'm at low risk, young, healthy, I estimate that I have no reason to vaccinate, and that I respect their decision whatever it is.
I don't think getting angry and spouting out conspiracies is going to help your case. If someone tries to lecture you on anything further, just listen to them calmly, smile, nod and leave silences when they're done talking. It's usually enough to make the person realize they're being jerks. There's no point in being confrontational with your loved ones, preach and don't fight, that's the way you get your point across imo
It's the vaccinated people pressuring me more and more that's getting to be the problem, and people who I don't talk to much who bring it up because it's easy small talk. I've been fine saying "not yet" so far.
That's exactly what I've done too. I tell them I'll take it when I need it, which is not a lie. If I can't travel without adding it on top of the vaccine stack, I'll get it. I just won't rush into taking an experimental treatment for the fun of it.
Basically the variant furthest away from the Wuhan one is 99.7% genetically the same. There is NO WAY your immune system would not recognize it if you already caught covid.
And the 0.3% difference is entirely expected, and is caused when the virus replicates, eventually a "transcoding" error happens, where a piece of data does not get copied correctly.
The SARS strain from 17 years ago is still 80% the same as Covid 19. There was a test where they took blood from people who caught SARS back then, and isolated T-Cells, and introduced those T-Cells to Covid-19. Guess what? They lit up! The recognized the virus, and conversely, they took the blood from people who had caught Covid-19, isolated T-Cells and introduced them to the old SARS from 17 years ago. THEY ALSO LIT UP. So essentially, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU WHEN THEY FEAR MONGER ABOUT VARIANTS. THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING AND WE MUST FIND OUT WHY.
The other lie is around asymptomatic transmission. There was never agreement among scientists about this prior to covid. Think about it rationally, if the virus is replicating in your body such that you are shedding it from your breath, then that means the virus is attacking and destroying your cells. You WILL have symptoms from this, because your body will be forced to respond by raising your temperature, making you tired, inflammation, coughing etc. If you feel nothing, then you are not shedding any where close to the same amount, maybe 100 time less such that it is not significant. If you feel nothing, then its because your body destroyed it quickly or because its simply not at a high load in your system. Again, they are LYING to you.
It does not prevent infection or transmission. It only reduces symptoms. It only protects the person who received it. It's only objective is to lower hospitalization and death numbers.
Since I am generally healthy ( and people in my age category don't generally go to the hospital or die) I don't need it.
Stuff evolves randomly. Mutations don't survive long enough to thrive because the original variation just drowns out the mutation. Until there is some kind new environment that favors a mutation, those mutations don't thrive. Vaccinated people are like the increased concentration of antibiotic. It is the vaccinated who provide evolutionary pressure.
"Well if the whole world gets vaccinated there will be nowhere for it to thrive."
A) it's not possible to sterilize the world of any kind of pathogen.
B) did you forget that coronavirus came from bats?
I'll tell you when I discover the answer.
At this point, nothing you provide, even if it comes from the CTV/CBC Gospel itself, will ever change their freaky little minds.
I got in a fight with a family member on Friday over Vax adverse reactions when they demanded to know if we were vaxxed. My wife quoted CBC/CTV articles at the time to back it up. They had the nerve to ignore the links my wife sent during the vid call.
We won't be visiting that family member when we go to NB this week.
My next project involves a gathering point for info in a succinct way. An accessible repository.
Soon...
I still have a day job, covid freaks and other whack jobs to contend with on a daily basis at the same time ??
The way I approach it is I tell the person that on a global perspective, I believe it's essential people get vaccinated. Weak, vulnerable, old people need the protection from covid more than the vaccine's side effects. But there is also an individual component, where I factor in the risks of taking the vaccine, which might be little or hypothetical, but do hold weight in f my decision. Since I'm at low risk, young, healthy, I estimate that I have no reason to vaccinate, and that I respect their decision whatever it is.
I don't think getting angry and spouting out conspiracies is going to help your case. If someone tries to lecture you on anything further, just listen to them calmly, smile, nod and leave silences when they're done talking. It's usually enough to make the person realize they're being jerks. There's no point in being confrontational with your loved ones, preach and don't fight, that's the way you get your point across imo
That's exactly what I've done too. I tell them I'll take it when I need it, which is not a lie. If I can't travel without adding it on top of the vaccine stack, I'll get it. I just won't rush into taking an experimental treatment for the fun of it.
I recommend you listen to Michael Yeadon, who calmly and succinctly explains exactly that.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/9avwnk71UDRQ/
Basically the variant furthest away from the Wuhan one is 99.7% genetically the same. There is NO WAY your immune system would not recognize it if you already caught covid.
And the 0.3% difference is entirely expected, and is caused when the virus replicates, eventually a "transcoding" error happens, where a piece of data does not get copied correctly.
The SARS strain from 17 years ago is still 80% the same as Covid 19. There was a test where they took blood from people who caught SARS back then, and isolated T-Cells, and introduced those T-Cells to Covid-19. Guess what? They lit up! The recognized the virus, and conversely, they took the blood from people who had caught Covid-19, isolated T-Cells and introduced them to the old SARS from 17 years ago. THEY ALSO LIT UP. So essentially, THEY ARE LYING TO YOU WHEN THEY FEAR MONGER ABOUT VARIANTS. THEY KNOW THEY ARE LYING AND WE MUST FIND OUT WHY.
The other lie is around asymptomatic transmission. There was never agreement among scientists about this prior to covid. Think about it rationally, if the virus is replicating in your body such that you are shedding it from your breath, then that means the virus is attacking and destroying your cells. You WILL have symptoms from this, because your body will be forced to respond by raising your temperature, making you tired, inflammation, coughing etc. If you feel nothing, then you are not shedding any where close to the same amount, maybe 100 time less such that it is not significant. If you feel nothing, then its because your body destroyed it quickly or because its simply not at a high load in your system. Again, they are LYING to you.
My response:
It does not prevent infection or transmission. It only reduces symptoms. It only protects the person who received it. It's only objective is to lower hospitalization and death numbers.
Since I am generally healthy ( and people in my age category don't generally go to the hospital or die) I don't need it.
http://youtu.be/plVk4NVIUh8
Stuff evolves randomly. Mutations don't survive long enough to thrive because the original variation just drowns out the mutation. Until there is some kind new environment that favors a mutation, those mutations don't thrive. Vaccinated people are like the increased concentration of antibiotic. It is the vaccinated who provide evolutionary pressure.
"Well if the whole world gets vaccinated there will be nowhere for it to thrive."
A) it's not possible to sterilize the world of any kind of pathogen.
B) did you forget that coronavirus came from bats?