I mean you just described that entire 2% of the voting population. They're only interested in virtue-signalling and hearing their "leader" recite the talking points they want to hear (even if it means alienating the other 98% of the electorate and ensuring the PPC never even wins a seat, let alone form a government). They have no plan whatsoever to turn their ideals into policy/legislation. They just chant some slogans, feel good in the moment, and then they can call it a day.
Edit: I mean what is Max's "viable solution"? He can't even win a seat. How is he going to make his solution policy from a soap box on the lawn of parliament hill?
Like it or not, getting elected and forming a government is a prerequisite to turning your agenda into governance. And Max doesn't even seem to be trying to get his party elected.
The concept of building a movement that can bring in people who are usually disillusioned with politics is a viable strategy.
No, it's actually not. Maybe in the "Dreams can come true if you just believe in yourself" fantasy world but not in the real world.
Of the 43 federal elections this country has had over the 150+ years of its existence, every single one of them has been won by one of the two the major parties (The Liberals and the Conservatives under their various names).
And do you know why that is? There's a simple reason for it: Because unlike the PPC, the major parties practice democracy. They elect a new leader every few years and they vote on what the party's policies should be. This means those parties can keep up with the shifting political winds from one year to the next. This is how they stay relevant and stay on top of the polls even after 150+ years of existence.
This necessarily means that it's impossible for a minor party to come from behind and sweep an election because if that minor party's ideas were popular enough to get elected on, a major party would be running on them.
That is why it's always been either the Liberal party or the Conservative party winning elections. There's no room for startup parties when the major parties can (and do) shift their policies to keep up with the electorate.
And to think that the PPC is going to be the first party in Canadian history to buck this trend is just straight up delusional. You know how many minor parties have come and gone, thinking just like PPCers are now, beleving they're going to be the first startup party to sweep a Canadian election? Dozens. LOL. and they ALL said the same shit you guys do about establishment parties being corrupt and it's time for new blood and bla bla bla. And it never amounts to anything.
Think the PPC is going to be the first ever to buck the trend is as delusional as people who count on winning the lottery to provide for their retirement. Actually moreso. At least it's possible to win the lottery.
It is what happened with the Reform party did.
And what did the Reform party ever accomplish other than to keep the Liberals in power?
Besides that, the key distinction between Reform and the PPC is that Reform increased in popularity after they launched. The PPC has only declined in popularity since they launched.
see, people actually took the Reform party seriously because they were a serious party, complete with leadership elections, policy conventions, a constitution, published financials, all the components that make a party legit. The PPC has none of that because it's a crackpot/wingnut sham/joke party. Everybody in Canada knows this except you guys and it's frankly embarrassing. It's like watching someone campaign his heart out for the Rhinoceros party not understanding that it's a joke.
Like at what point do you accept the reality that this PPC thing is a dud? You live in a 70% left-wing country. On what can planet can a hard-right fringe party that polls at 2% and which a literal neo-nazi party offered to merge with capable of getting elected by a 70% left-wing country? It's astounding that there are actual humans who seem to genuinely believe this is possible.
And Bernier does?
I mean you just described that entire 2% of the voting population. They're only interested in virtue-signalling and hearing their "leader" recite the talking points they want to hear (even if it means alienating the other 98% of the electorate and ensuring the PPC never even wins a seat, let alone form a government). They have no plan whatsoever to turn their ideals into policy/legislation. They just chant some slogans, feel good in the moment, and then they can call it a day.
Edit: I mean what is Max's "viable solution"? He can't even win a seat. How is he going to make his solution policy from a soap box on the lawn of parliament hill?
Like it or not, getting elected and forming a government is a prerequisite to turning your agenda into governance. And Max doesn't even seem to be trying to get his party elected.
Who said anything about the conservatives?
Thorns_Embrace said Sky had no viable solution as if to distinguish him from Bernier, implying Beriner does have a viable solution.
Bernier doesn't have a plan to even win his own seat, let alone win a whole election.
No, it's actually not. Maybe in the "Dreams can come true if you just believe in yourself" fantasy world but not in the real world.
Of the 43 federal elections this country has had over the 150+ years of its existence, every single one of them has been won by one of the two the major parties (The Liberals and the Conservatives under their various names).
And do you know why that is? There's a simple reason for it: Because unlike the PPC, the major parties practice democracy. They elect a new leader every few years and they vote on what the party's policies should be. This means those parties can keep up with the shifting political winds from one year to the next. This is how they stay relevant and stay on top of the polls even after 150+ years of existence.
This necessarily means that it's impossible for a minor party to come from behind and sweep an election because if that minor party's ideas were popular enough to get elected on, a major party would be running on them.
That is why it's always been either the Liberal party or the Conservative party winning elections. There's no room for startup parties when the major parties can (and do) shift their policies to keep up with the electorate.
And to think that the PPC is going to be the first party in Canadian history to buck this trend is just straight up delusional. You know how many minor parties have come and gone, thinking just like PPCers are now, beleving they're going to be the first startup party to sweep a Canadian election? Dozens. LOL. and they ALL said the same shit you guys do about establishment parties being corrupt and it's time for new blood and bla bla bla. And it never amounts to anything.
Think the PPC is going to be the first ever to buck the trend is as delusional as people who count on winning the lottery to provide for their retirement. Actually moreso. At least it's possible to win the lottery.
And what did the Reform party ever accomplish other than to keep the Liberals in power?
Besides that, the key distinction between Reform and the PPC is that Reform increased in popularity after they launched. The PPC has only declined in popularity since they launched.
Their numbers have flatlined since Dec 2020.
The party is polling (on average) 27% lower than they did the day before the 2019 election.
And Benrier's own popularity in his home riding has dropped by 24% since the 2019 election.
see, people actually took the Reform party seriously because they were a serious party, complete with leadership elections, policy conventions, a constitution, published financials, all the components that make a party legit. The PPC has none of that because it's a crackpot/wingnut sham/joke party. Everybody in Canada knows this except you guys and it's frankly embarrassing. It's like watching someone campaign his heart out for the Rhinoceros party not understanding that it's a joke.
Like at what point do you accept the reality that this PPC thing is a dud? You live in a 70% left-wing country. On what can planet can a hard-right fringe party that polls at 2% and which a literal neo-nazi party offered to merge with capable of getting elected by a 70% left-wing country? It's astounding that there are actual humans who seem to genuinely believe this is possible.