How can an unvaccinated person put a vaccinated person at risk?
Because wearing a seatbelt doesn't guarantee you won't be killed in an accident.
Same principal. The vaccine only lowers your risk of being seriously ill or dying from the original virus, and the Delta variant appears to be more dangerous than the original.
Anyone who thinks a vaccinated person can't get the virus isn't keeping up. The advantage of the vaccine is that on average people don't get as sick, are less likely to need a hospital or ICU bed, and are less likely to die. That's all.
so then the unvaccinated should drop dead as soon as they get Delta variant. so what's the actual threat? how is an unvaccinated person infected with this deadly plague able to carry on normal life, get on a bus and train and then infect the "vaccinated' person
I don't think so. Maybe you're thinking of someone else's comment. All I said was "the Delta variant appears to be more dangerous than the original"
You continue to prove your lack of critical thinking to any observers.
Any observers can google "Delta variant more dangerous" and read the results:
"Delta had a 120% greater risk of hospitalization, 287% greater risk of ICU admission and 137% greater risk of death compared to non-variant of concern strains of SARS-COV-2."
"Data indicate that Delta is 40-60% more transmissible than Alpha and almost twice as transmissible as the original Wuhan strain of SARS-CoV-2"
Correct. What the vaccines do is reduce the load on the healthcare system. Today in Ontario only 18% of the new cases, people in hospital, and people in ICU are fully vaccinated. The other 82% come from the 25% who aren't fully vaccinated. (https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data)
Says the various public health officials and organizations
I repeat: who else? You saying so doesn't count, 'cause who are you?
What vaccines do is generate immunity, and stop infections because the immune system attacks the(in this case of viral vaccines), before the host can reach a point that they become symptomatic and spread the disease through standard vectors.
Being vaccinated does not mean you cannot be infected and spread the infection, but statistically you are less likely to get seriously sick or die, and in some cases - depending on which vaccine and which variant - you may pass the virus on at a much reduced rate.
In Canada, like the US - unless you die, they don't count your admission.
Pure, unadulterated nonesense. You aren't counted unless you test positive.
That’s not at all how they were originally billed. “Take the vaxx and get your old life back”
The message was more like "vaccines will help". Prove me wrong.
And they have helped. Currently the new covid cases and those in hospital beds and ICUs are mostly unvaccinated people, despite the fact that they only represent about a third of the population in Ontario.
"We may never get back to what life was like before the coronavirus,"
"we need 70% to 85% of Americans vaccinated" The US has about 50%, Ontario about 65%
With that degree of vaccination - the one we haven't reached yet - it talks about "approaching a degree of normality", not getting your old life back.
That interview with Fauci was published in January, before the wide spread of the variants of concern. If you're expecting atomically accurate predictions in the early stages of a global fight against a new virus you're gonna have a bad time.
According to leading scientists, your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus. This promotes your protection against a vast range of viral variants and abrogates further spread to anyone else.
The vaccine has no impact on whether or not the virus spreads. Vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people.
your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus
Baloney. The majority of the people who currently have covid come from the minority who are unvaccinated. People's "natural immune system" isn't doing the trick. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
Because wearing a seatbelt doesn't guarantee you won't be killed in an accident.
Same principal. The vaccine only lowers your risk of being seriously ill or dying from the original virus, and the Delta variant appears to be more dangerous than the original.
Anyone who thinks a vaccinated person can't get the virus isn't keeping up. The advantage of the vaccine is that on average people don't get as sick, are less likely to need a hospital or ICU bed, and are less likely to die. That's all.
so then the unvaccinated should drop dead as soon as they get Delta variant. so what's the actual threat? how is an unvaccinated person infected with this deadly plague able to carry on normal life, get on a bus and train and then infect the "vaccinated' person
Where did you get that idea?
It's hard to believe you haven't heard that some people don't get very sick.
I don't think so. Maybe you're thinking of someone else's comment. All I said was "the Delta variant appears to be more dangerous than the original"
Any observers can google "Delta variant more dangerous" and read the results:
"Delta had a 120% greater risk of hospitalization, 287% greater risk of ICU admission and 137% greater risk of death compared to non-variant of concern strains of SARS-COV-2."
"Data indicate that Delta is 40-60% more transmissible than Alpha and almost twice as transmissible as the original Wuhan strain of SARS-CoV-2"
and so on...
when SHTF i will gladly put people like you out of your misery, and feel good doing it.
I see you've had your account for 4 days. Welcome aboard Junior.
Says you and who else? (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Is+the+delta+variant+more+dangerous)
Correct. What the vaccines do is reduce the load on the healthcare system. Today in Ontario only 18% of the new cases, people in hospital, and people in ICU are fully vaccinated. The other 82% come from the 25% who aren't fully vaccinated. (https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data)
I repeat: who else? You saying so doesn't count, 'cause who are you?
Being vaccinated does not mean you cannot be infected and spread the infection, but statistically you are less likely to get seriously sick or die, and in some cases - depending on which vaccine and which variant - you may pass the virus on at a much reduced rate.
Pure, unadulterated nonesense. You aren't counted unless you test positive.
The message was more like "vaccines will help". Prove me wrong.
And they have helped. Currently the new covid cases and those in hospital beds and ICUs are mostly unvaccinated people, despite the fact that they only represent about a third of the population in Ontario.
So how does sitting next to an unvaccinated person harm the vaccinated person?
Did you read that article?
"We may never get back to what life was like before the coronavirus,"
"we need 70% to 85% of Americans vaccinated" The US has about 50%, Ontario about 65%
With that degree of vaccination - the one we haven't reached yet - it talks about "approaching a degree of normality", not getting your old life back.
That interview with Fauci was published in January, before the wide spread of the variants of concern. If you're expecting atomically accurate predictions in the early stages of a global fight against a new virus you're gonna have a bad time.
1 By incubating a new variant. 2 By spreading the virus - vaccination only improves your odds, it doesn't provide invincible protection.
True. And vaccinated people are at less risk.
According to leading scientists, your natural immune system generates immunity to multiple components of the virus. This promotes your protection against a vast range of viral variants and abrogates further spread to anyone else.
The vaccine has no impact on whether or not the virus spreads. Vaccinated people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people.
Try again.
Such as?
Baloney. The majority of the people who currently have covid come from the minority who are unvaccinated. People's "natural immune system" isn't doing the trick. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
And it's unvaccinated and partially vaccinated individuals who are taking up far more than their statistical share of health care resources.
What's your point?