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tuchodi -8 points ago +1 / -9

Always attacks the messenger.

As I recall the last time he posted that list he counted doctors drowning, dying of life-long heart issues and cancer, dying in car crashes, falling off a mountain that's arguably more dangerous than Everest, an obese 60 year old dying of a stroke, and so forth..

It was child's play. I should have been embarrassed for him.

Dr. William Makis is on the right side of history

Time will tell, I guess. For now he has to cater to your crowd because he can't practice medicine. Since 2018, apparently: https://search.cpsa.ca/PhysicianProfile?d=true&e=8c8dd845-a045-4b22-b852-7e73029596ea

And his area is nuclear medicine, by the way, not infectious diseases or public health.

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tuchodi -8 points ago +1 / -9

So, 1% of people that have tested positive have died. Yes.

Thank you. It's a handy metric for discussing the risk of myocarditis because the people telling scary stories about it don't dare - can't, actually - come up with anything similar without showing how ridiculous they are with their "DOn't Get vacCINATED! iT'lL giVe yOu mYOcArDiTIS!"

Since we're talking about it here are some current numbers:

Global 1.024% https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Global 1.03% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

Canada 1.083% https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/

USA 1.094% https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

Quora is like Twitter.

You heard it here folks. They're doubling down and going with Quora over science.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

By golly you're right. I did say "unlike the 1% of covid victims who die" when I should have said "unlike the 1% of people who test positive for covid who die."

Now we can kiss and make up.

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tuchodi -8 points ago +2 / -10

Kinda backed off from the "head to toe more times than he can count" eh? Nice to see.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

Trudeau wore Blackface on more occasions than he can recall

Thank you. That's more accurate than what you said at first.

You lie calling it “a mistake”

I didn't call it a mistake. The only time I mentioned a mistake I was talking about you apparently never making one, and therefore not having to apologize for anything.

You support a racist. That makes you a racist.

You calling him a racist says more about you than him. Or me, for that matter.

Of course we have photos of your guy but you have none of any of ours Your lie about Mulroney being “my guy”

You wanted pictures of your conservatives being naughty. I was just explaining why there weren't any pictures of "your" Brian Mulroney accepting bags of cash that he didn't declare.

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tuchodi -8 points ago +1 / -9

Quora is publicly vetted.

That sounds like anyone can post. You're going to need proof that it's trustworthy. I suggest you start here, on Quora: "It’s not trustworthy because there is no fact checking and no credential checking. It’s not unusual to see contradictory answers to a question. It’s not unusual to see a clueless opinion presented as fact." https://www.quora.com/Is-Quora-trustworthy

And Bobbysgoat prefers it to the other links in this thread: the American Heart Association, the Canadian Medical Association Journal, the Journal of the American Medical Association, etc.

That explains a lot.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

Folks, ScoobyDoo appears not to want to admit that so far 1% of the people who have tested positive for covid have died.

They definitely don't want to talk about unnecessarily scary stories being spread about myocarditis.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

An anonymous post on Quora? Really? That says "it may be to a small degree in many cases"?

There is a global pandemic going on, so there is no risk-free scenario. Over 600 milliiom people have tested positive for the virus and of them about 1 in every hundred has died. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus / https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

Those people who are spreading scary stories about myocarditis never, ever, compare the risks of life changing injury from myocarditis to the same risks from covid.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

From the link: "It got them through ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation against the CDC"

The reporter is free to call it litigation if he wants to, but it's a routine process that anyone with the time and money can access. It's not like there's some crusading lawyer out there doing something new.

It's just some journalist trying to earn a paycheque by telling stories that are scarier than they have to be.

Have you looked at his links, or are you just taking his word for it?

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

coverage of a court case

What court case? No details there, but it provides a nice dog whistle for the conspiracy folks, doesn't it? For all we know it's just a routine 'access to information' request through normal channels.

attacking the messenger

Just pointing out he has no special expertise, so you can go to the documents he provides and read them yourself, because you're as qualified as he is.

And when you do you'll see he's ignoring the big picture and falling back on the "if it bleeds it leads" school of journalism in the hopes of making a buck.

You have looked at his links, I assume? And seen that less than 1% needed hospital care, there's no distinction between care for vaccine side-effects and treatment for covid, and there's no indication that anyone died?

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tuchodi -8 points ago +2 / -10

Folks, ScoobyDoo is free to make a post about the fatality rates for covid.

Meanwhile, the focus of this thread, myocarditis, - it's right there in the post's title - is the unwarranted concentration of attention on a rare and usually non-consequential side-effects of vaccination.

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tuchodi -10 points ago +1 / -11

ScoobyDoo is just trying to distract from the fact that if you test positive for covid there's an overall 1 in a hundred chance you'll die. If they've been doing any reading they'll argue about Case Fatality Rates / Infection Fatality Rates / Crude Mortality, Mortality by Age, and so forth.

Anything to draw attention away from the topic at hand, which is the rarity of serious myocarditis after vaccination.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

Don't get your medical advice from anonymous people on social media folks. They just pass on what the voices in their heads tell them to say.

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tuchodi -10 points ago +1 / -11

Don't take my word for it folks. Look it up yourself. Number of deaths divided by number of cases. I'm using these sites but you're free to use your own:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/

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tuchodi -8 points ago +1 / -9
  1. And a virgin. Thrust me

hhhmmmm. If you have a day job, don't give it up. Mentalist isn't your strong suit.

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tuchodi -11 points ago +1 / -12

the article i posted

Folks, the article is written by Greg Piper, a journalist with no medical background (https://justthenews.com/greg-piper), who appears to be purposely looking through the wrong end of the telescope. His own sources - the links in his article - show that damage from vaccines is very much less than damage from the virus but he skips over that entirely and just beats the drum about transitory side effects.

It's a living, I guess.

As your own link states: "the leading heart center at the Toronto General Hospital has performed “approximately 65 cardiac MRIs for suspected vaccine-associated myocarditis as of February 2022.” ... A small number considering 12.6 million Ontarians have been vaccinated to date."

Never mind that virtually everyone recovers from any myocarditis the vaccines may induce: 2022 Jul 28 "COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis: A Systemic Review and Literature Search" - "A thorough literature search was conducted in Cochrane library, PubMed, ScienceDirect, and Google Scholar for published literature till 30 March 2022. ... all the reported patients recovered and were discharged home" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/

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tuchodi -10 points ago +2 / -12

Lots of hyperbole here folks. People who had no problems are ignored, and the reports of minor issues, such as a phone call to Telehealth about a sore arm, are lumped in with the serious ones.

Of the "10 million-plus users" two thirds reported nothing at all. Of the one third who did report a reaction, the vast majority were of the aches and pains variety. Less than 3% of that one third were hospitalized.

That means that of the over 10 million people who were presumably vaccinated less than 0.75% needed hospital care, and some of them would have needed it for covid because - as we all know by now - the vaccines reduce the impact of the virus but they don't provide 100% immunity.

And those people in hospital went home, unlike the 1% of covid victims who die.

Concerning fatalities, the quoted rate was normal considering we're in a global pandemic (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), and so far there is still virtually nothing to link the vaccines to an accelerated mortality rate.

As for heart issues, they were so rare that they weren't detected in the trials. They were noticed eventually at a rate of less than 2 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccinations (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529)

And myocarditis fatalities were vanishingly rare. "Between December 14, 2020, and August 31, 2021, 192,405,448 individuals older than 12 years of age received a total of 354,100,845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines. ... Among persons younger than 30 years of age, there were no confirmed cases of myocarditis in those who died after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination without another identifiable cause and there was 1 probable case of myocarditis but there was insufficient information available for a thorough investigation. At the time of data review, there were 2 reports of death in persons younger than 30 years of age with potential myocarditis that remain under investigation and are not included in the case counts." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

Folks, here's another rider on the "All those scientists are lying to us" bus.

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

At least Only 1

Fixed that for you.

Oh sorry he was joking hilarious prank bro lololo

It's uncomfortable being the butt of a joke, isn't it?

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tuchodi -9 points ago +1 / -10

More pearl clutching.

Some people need to spend time in North Korea, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Myanmar, etc before they start whining about government repression in Canada.

The flu trucks klan would have lasted hours instead of weeks over there.

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