💣 Fuck it. I'm voting Tory. 💣
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And that's why Conservatism is fucked in Canada. We're going to vote for a very left leaning "Conservative" to punish another leftist. We're not voting to change Canada. We're voting for speed bump in a progressive Canada. If O'Toole wins he will get maybe one or two legislative periods and then, mark my words, the Libs will win with a candidate that will make Trudeau look like a right wing nationalist.
Well actually if O'Toole is shit it leaves no other option than the PPC
Every election in Canadian history has been won by either the Libs or the Cons. And it's likely to stay that way, because the major parties adapt their platforms year by year to keep up with the prevailing political winds. That's why parties founded 150+ years ago are still able to get elected in 2021. Betting on the PPC being the first party ever to buck this trend is like betting on winning the lottery to provide for your retirement. As much as you want it to, it's not gonna happen. And you have to be realistic about that because there are consequences to pinning your hopes on a delusion.
So because elections are always won by one of the two major parties adapting to the prevailing political winds, any change you want to see (beyond what the CPC is offering in their 2021 platform) has to happen starting inside the CPC at their policy conventions and leadership elections (I assume you attend and vote in all those?).
And for you to get the change you want in those processes, you have to convince enough Conservative members to see things your way. I hope you comment at least as much on Facebook/Twitter etc trying to change minds as you do in this echo chamber talking with people who already agree with you. Otherwise you're not changing a thing. Throwing your vote away on a hopeless fringe party certainly isn't going to help.
I do. I voted for a candidate in the leadership race that promised to remove the carbon tax. And a few months after he won, he introduced a plan for a carbon tax that is even more authoritarian than the current one.
Dude, I live in a riding that the CPC won with 80% of the vote last time. My Facebook feed is a bigger echo chamber for the Conservatives than this forum here.
I know, and simultaneously I have the feeling that voting for a guy that runs with policies I heard from Trudeau just a few years ago does the same.
Do you seriously need me to put together an itemized summary of the CPC's platform and highlight all the differences between that and what the Liberals are offering?
Even your central policy gripe: The Carbon tax. You're going to be paying a fraction under the Conservatives than you would under the Liberals. O'Toole promised to eliminate it? Well he's more or less eliminating it, save a small, token fee to keep the climate crazies (who BTW happen to decide elections in this country) happy.
I mean would you rather stick with Trudeau and keep paying the bigger tax?
The problem here with you is that you don't see how many of these policies overlap with a Liberal program from 2015 and how many of these points are just empty platitudes. Just look at the immigration policy of O'Toole. What other than "we're going to do it better than Trudope" does he offer? It's just more of the "we're going to streamline that, make this more fair and efficient and make it more accessible". This all has no practical meaning.
And it doesn't even stop there. When metacanada was still a thing we made fun of the Libs by showing how often the word man vs. woman or father vs. mother is in their program. Do the same now for O'Toole's program. Time to reuse some memes.
We're not voting for a Conservative leader.
We're not voting for Conservative policies.
We're voting to get Trudeau out of the office.
Do you see where the problem is?
It is my central gripe. And he's not eliminating it. He's keeping it. His 180 on the carbon tax gave it legs to stand on. Every Conservative Premier (Ford, Kenney, Moe and Pallister) sued the Liberal federal government to get it removed. Ford ran in 2018 on a platform to scrap it and he won in one of the most cucked provinces in Canada. And you're going to tell me that keeping the carbon tax is a small token fee to keep the climate crazies happy? It's not a small token, it's a fucking big one. O'Toole cemented the carbon tax for eternity in Canada. Every Liberal PM that comes after him will hike it, tenfold. And O'toole's flip flop on the carbon tax is what you can blame in 25 years when the carbon tax will be $200 a ton.
And btw. the current carbon tax in Saskatchewan is $40. I get almost every cent back I pay in carbon taxes back through my CAI payments. I can spend it as I wish. With O'Toole's plan I would pay 20% less, but I would only be allowed to spend it on government approved things. The current plan gives me more freedom.
Would you rather pay 20% less and buy only things the government approves for or pay 20% more, get the same amount you paid in carbon taxes back and spend it as you wish?
If you vote who you think is the best you are NEVER throwing away your vote.
Ah yes, the "Dreams can come true if you just believe in yourself" school of electioneering. 😂
Say hi to the dozens of other failed fringe parties who said the exact same thing you're saying when you meet them on the trash heap of history.
The outcome of your plan is a Conservative party that is as liberal as Trudeau in 2015.
OK. When Canada continues down the woke path to tyranny under the CPC and you start complaining about it, I will remind you that you voted for them.
That's unfortunate. Its your choice, so I will leave it at that. It will be interesting to read people's takes if the Cons take power and nothing changes.
This shows how much of a retard you are. Singh is even more extrem than Trudeau.
You shouldn't be allowed to vote. Period.
Meanwhile Australia is going full 3rd Reich and we have far more in common with them.
Japan went nuclear by promoting ivermectin as a treatment and recalling the moderna vax because they found a bunch of fucky shit in it that scared them.