British are dropping vaccine passports: Alex Berenson
(alexberenson.substack.com)
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"Fully vaccinated people made up just 1% of coronavirus deaths in England in first half of 2021, figures show"
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-fully-vaccinated-people-made-up-just-1-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-england-in-first-half-of-2021-figures-show-12407019
Usually Alex Berenson - the pandemics wrongest man (https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/pandemics-wrongest-man/618475/) - supplies a link when he spouts his nonsense, even if he doesn't seem to understand the material he's referring to, but this time we're apparently just supposed to take his word for it.
I don't know how to answer that. I'm pointing out his unsupported statements, such as "Just so we’re clear: they’re not doing this because they think vaccines work - but because they know vaccines don’t."
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a picture instead of a link we can follow and read for ourselves: https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F370c0ccf-14f2-4e57-b468-2d8709cf02a5_750x1206.jpeg
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"80% of people over 16 are fully vaccinated"
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an image of a graph that shows daily deaths in the UK during the 4th wave (https://cdn.substack.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2080bcdc-edb6-43dd-8f59-0a61c319f5ce_4017x1878.jpeg) that has nothing to do with the statement before (above) or after it: "Other data show that only about 25% of deaths in Britain are among the unvaccinated - and that vaccinated people over 40 are actually MORE likely to get Covid than the unvaccinated."
Berenson is usually pretty good with words but in this case he's 'All hat and no cattle', as they say in Texas.
Be specific. Pick something to talk about. I'd be happy to provide links to articles or journals about a topic, but in this case the only topic is Berenson's lack of anything that backs up what he's saying. He provided no useful sources and I pointed that out. I don't see how I could provide a clearer source.
When someone posts something inaccurate - "vaccines don't work", for example - I can reply and provide links to studies that show they do. When Berenson says "British are dropping vaccine passports" and provides nothing to back that statement up then I can trot out Hitchens Razor: ""What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence."
My only source for my response to OP's post is me. There's nothing to find a source for. If you won't pick a topic I can't help you.
You aren't looking for an answer like "Facebook" or "InfoWars" are you? I don't have a few sites that provide all my references. Lots of my links come from government, institutional, or academic web sites. Others are from news sites.
Berenson provides nothing to support his statement that "they’re not doing this because they think vaccines work - but because they know vaccines don’t"
Probably because he can't, I'm guessing.
It's not that simple. The numbers below show that covid deaths do not vary directly with vaccinations (Israel) nor with relaxed protocols (Sweden, Japan).
As of Sept 10
The first number: the 7 day moving average in deaths per million of population. The second number is the percentage of population that is fully vaccinated
Sweden: Deaths/M 0.97, Percent fully vaccinated 60
Japan: Deaths/M 2.93. Percent fully vaccinated 50
Canada: Deaths/M 3.43. Percent fully vaccinated 68
Israel : Deaths/M 20.32, Percent fully vaccinated 63
USA: Deaths/M 21.12, Percent fully vaccinated 53
Sources:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-people-fully-vaccinated-covid
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
They have certainly been proven so far to be far safer than getting the virus. If it was just a personal decision I wouldn't care, but unvaccinated people are better at passing the virus on: "Fully vaccinated people with Delta variant breakthrough infections can spread the virus to others. However, vaccinated people appear to spread the virus for a shorter time" (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html)
Nobody ever said they would. None of the vaccines were ever said to provide 100% protection. But they have been proven to slow the transmission of the virus and lower the impact on the healthcare system. This allows more people with 'regular' problems to get help.
Informed consent would be a stronger argument if you weren't better at infecting the vulnerable.