I Made This to Visualize the Ridiculousness of the Current Hysteria. Feel Free to Share!
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Now if only we knew the true number of dead, who died solely due to the virus.
Thing is, if Canada didn't adopt stay-at-home orders, shutdowns of non-essential businesses, social distancing and masking and their COVID-19 death rate were comparable to Sweden (5.7 deaths/10k pop vs. 2.37 deaths/10k pop) there would be a huge moral outrage. We would have 21,531 COVID deaths instead of 8,962.
Sweden's head epidemiologist Anders Tegnell was receiving death threats for going with the herd immunity strategy. It's a very politically unpopular position to take and took a lot of balls for him to do. But all the retards who were saying that Sweden was gonna have 100,000 deaths look very foolish now. And Sweden's curve has been crushed while life is fairly normal for them. While the rest of the world is living in fear of a second wave.
The 2017-18 flu/pneumonia killed 8,511 Canadians in 2018 without any social distancing/masking, no stay-at-home orders, no shutdown of non-essential businesses. 21,531 dead Canadians is like 2.5x a bad flu season. This virus is at least 2.5x the 2017-18 flu's lethality (which was the most lethal flu we had in awhile). Though the 2017-18 flu did have the benefit of a vaccine as well. There is no vaccine for any coronavirus.
You have to understand how politically unpopular Sweden's strategy was to understand why our politicians decided to go with stay-at-home orders, social distancing and masking. The narrative right now is that Sweden and Anders Tegnell were very selfish for letting so many granmas and granpa's die. The epidemiologist does admit that Sweden could have done more to protect long term care and the elderly and sick and he has some regrets about that. But he is still Public Enemy #1 with pro-lockdown people except for maybe Trump.
Society needs to have a frank discussion about how many cases, positivity rate, hospitalization and death is acceptable. Before they introduce a flu case and death ticker and this shit goes on forever. Because our society was cool with 6,000-8,500 Canadians dying a year of flu/pneumonia for years.
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but the economist suggested that Sweden's economy took about the same dive as counties that officially locked down. Their death count per capita is significantly higher than ours, but still nowhere near enough for heard immunity making a second wave similarly likely. We'll see though. I really do think it's too early to tell what we should have done all along. Are non medical masks really effective? If they are why the fuck didn't we do it before? If they're not why has it become so political? We're far from any right answers and making it political as you said is the wrong way to go about it. Let's stick to science and facts.
Sweden's case and death curve got crushed even though they never had a real lockdown. At most they banned public gatherings above 50 (so no concerts, no attendance in sporting events) and cancelled in-class instruction for students 16+. I've heard the reports that Sweden didn't actually achieve herd immunity (60+%). It was more like 13-14% immunity according to sero studies. But for some reason their cases and deaths dropped like a rock anyways. I don't think it's the summer because Brazil and India are getting ravaged by the virus. The Southern USA had lots of COVID in this heat.
No, Sweden's economy didn't take as much as a dive as other countries.
All your numbers assume the 8,511 number is accurate. It isn't. Everything you just said is incorrect because of this.
Sorry, I meant to quote the 8,962 covid death number not the amount from flu/pneumonia deaths from 2017-2018.
I should post this on my companies safety board as "observation". But I am sure the safety fag and some do nothing top level manager will have a shit fit...
But thanks for the great info-graphic, I sent it to my dad and brother.
Thanks for sharing! You should post it anyway and let the shitfits fly!
Here's a snapshot of the Health Canada data found here
"Excess deaths" fuckery included of course
Great content man
Mein got! TIL that nobody lives in the Maritimes!
That explains sooo much!
The fact that this is a communicable disease I think is the reason why society is freaking out. A lot of people have people in their lives who are vulnerable (elderly and/or chronically ill people) and are terrified of the prospect of their vulnerable family member/friend catching the virus and dying. Their worst fear is infecting that vulnerable person themselves. The fear of this virus is literally destroying families. My dad had me when he was old. So he's elderly. And he found out he had Stage IV metastatic cancer earlier this year. My family thinks I'm selfish for wanting to see my girlfriend for fear that I'm gonna catch the virus and infect and hospitalize/kill my dad. Even though less than 2 people/day are dying of the virus in Ontario and there's only 66 Ontarians hospitalized with COVID right now, 30 in ICU and 15 intubated. Our society has lost their fucking mind.
I literally wrote a mental note in my mind to write my older sister out of my will if I die before her for calling me selfish for carrying about wanting to "get laid" over my dad's health. When I have been in a relationship for over 1 year and my girlfriend and I missed our 1 year anniversary because my family is terrified that I'm gonna kill dad. As my dad's caretaker, I am starting to resent this shit. If I didn't take care of him, neither of my siblings would take care of him since my brother lives 75 minutes away by car and my sister is downtown with no car. And yet I'm called the selfish one. Why are people so fucking insane? The positivity rate in Ontario is like 0.4%. My girlfriend has no symptoms. I'm expected to give up my love life for fractions on fractions of a percent of risk. I texted all the coronavirus numbers to my sister and she just ignored my facts.
That's rough man. I'm glad you came out and talked about it. This lockdown has been hard on every one for many reasons. If I was in your shoes I'd say fuck it and go see your girlfriend. Keep trying to redpill your family slowly. Most people will pull themselves out of the cave and see the truth.
My sister is a white Liberal yuppie in downtown Toronto. Has mainstream liberal opinions. Mid-40s, she wanted kids but she was never happy with any of the interested suitors before her eggs expired. Chad didn't put a ring on it. It's cringe for me to mention Chad and my sister in the same thought but when I've seen her turn away so many guys who weren't "good enough" for her, I can't help but think that she expected a monogamous Chad with the six sixes to put a ring on it or something. So no shit she is not going to care about my love life and happiness because she feels resentful of the fact that her ship has sailed for kids. I wanted to go off on her so bad but she is an executor on my dad's will. I gotta pick my battles. My girlfriend has also not been taking the quarantine thing very well mentally. Humans need human touch. Texting, Skype and Zoom isn't enough.
Cases are going to go up in the fall when schools re-open. This is never going to go away completely. People need to get used to it. I don't want my dad to die. No one wants vulnerable people in their life to die. But society can't keep going on like this. Liberals are politicizing Doug Ford's decision to bring the kids back to school. Maybe remote learning is okay for older kids. But holy shit, an entire generation of kids is going to grow up to be socially and cognitively impaired without social interaction with peers and in-person instruction.