COVID vs. The Flu in Canada
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We didn't have any lockdowns or social distancing in 2018, this is why coronavirus deaths are only slightly higher than 2018 flu/pneumonia deaths. The coronavirus is definitely more dangerous for the elderly than the flu. Sweden didn't have a real lockdown and their COVID deaths per capita is 140% higher than Canada's. Someone here seriously brought up Taiwan as a counter-point. But Taiwan shut their fucking border off to China back in January. You can't do a light touch method without Sweden-like casualties if you don't shut the border early. Containment was no longer a real option for Canada back on March 16th. Especially when the US border was wide open until then. You would have had to ban all non-essential travel back in January (including the United States and Europe) and banned everyone who isn't a Canadian or permanent resident from coming in. And enforcing 14 day quarantines for people coming in back in January.
The flu appears to be more dangerous for young people than the coronavirus. However the flu is still largely harmless to the vast majority of young people.
Now that COVID hospitalizations and deaths are way down from peak levels, we should be re-opening society more and should start schools in September.
Quebec put sick nursing home patients back into nursing homes instead of leaving them in the COVID wards in hospitals. lmao. Quebec's death rate is over 3.5x Ontario's.
How about you not put sick patients back into nursing homes? Quebec's lockdown had nothing to do with their high death rate. Ontario had a lockdown too. How come Ontario has only 28% of Quebec's death rate? Because Ontario's government is not as retarded.
To Quebec's credit, they had their spring break like 2 weeks before their lockdown. Whereas Ontario didn't have a real spring break this year. Lots of Quebeckers traveled to the United States and Europe (especially France) during spring break and brought a lot of the virus back home to Quebec. So Ontario did have time on its side as well. The sooner you take measures to slow the spread in the epidemic curve, the better. Quebec reacted way too late to contain the casualties. And putting sick people back into nursing homes was retarded.
Timing is very important. Quebec's epidemic curve was earlier than Ontario's. New York's was earlier than Quebec's. Italy's was earlier than New York. China's was earlier than Italy. The earlier your curve, the faster you have to react to slow the spread.
We as a society over-reacted to this virus. But when OP implies that the flu is more deadly than the coronavirus, that is a bald faced lie. And that kind of misinformation needs to be called out. People like him who blatantly lie are the reason why more reasonable lockdown skeptics like me aren't taken seriously by the mainstream.
Anyone who claims that the coronavirus isn't more deadly than the flu after over 180,000 Americans died from COVID-19 while only 61,000 max died from flu/pneumonia in 2018 without lockdowns or social distancing is a blatant liar who needs to shut the fuck up. My point has always been that maybe 180,000 COVID deaths isn't as bad as all the lockdown deaths and sacrificing the future of the youth for the old and sick. The pandemic was a lose-lose situation. I think we should have just focused on making sure the hospitals weren't overwhelmed and otherwise let the virus run its course.
You say that it doesn't mean gutting the economy but are in favour of keeping people in hospital beds that cost over 2K per day. Nursing homes don't cost anywhere near that.