I see this alot actually. My dad still has a perception that the NDP is the party of the working class and the Conservatives are the party of the rich. He actually gets very upset that I don't vote NDP because I "was born a peasant and will die a peasant".
He suffers from the fundamental misunderstanding of taxation, most people do actually. Jeff Bezos is completely fine with super high taxes, his salary is 80K a year, you can take all of it from him and won't care. Most of his wealth is locked up in assets and stocks. Plus once someone is rich, they don't mind a tax increase on your competitors (such as new entrepreneurs). They can afford it, and that person making 200K a year has less of a chance of becoming a competitor. This is why behind every socialist movement are rich dudes financing it.
It does seem counter-intuitive that resistance to voting Conservative would increase with age. I think maybe the coronavirus situation might have something to do with it. From what I've noticed, boomers like my dad (early 70s, prostate cancer) are terrified of the virus. Gen Xers like my older siblings shame young people for having social lives during COVID. I'm my dad's pseudo-caretaker basically (I'm only in my mid-30s but my parents had me late) and my siblings don't even want me to see my girlfriend for fear that I'm going to get the virus and hospitalize/kill dad. Even though my girlfriend doesn't have symptoms, her 65 year old dad isn't sick either, etc. Whereas my generation and ESPECIALLY the zoomers and younger millennials are getting sick of the media shaming us for wanting social lives, sex lives, etc. Especially at my age, I'm at that in-between stage of my life where I'm not a spring chicken and I'm in the unfortunate position of having to be a caretaker earlier than usual because my parents had me late but I'm still young and want to enjoy what is left of my youth. And the parasitical boomers want our generation to sacrifice our youth and future for them after they had already fucked over my generation a long time ago.
And yes not all boomers asked for this lockdown and social distancing stuff. But there is a lot of finger wagging towards young people during this pandemic and we are getting sick of it.
Technically it's not borrowing because they just fire up the money printer. The national debt = government spending - taxation. It's only really borrowing in the sense that people expect their Canadian Dollars they are paid in to hold up in value well over time. Which isn't going to happen if you fire up the money printer too much.
The left is using Modern Monetary Theory to justify UBI and money printing. But that isn't what MMT advocates. I bought two books from MMT's founder 5 years ago. I am very well informed about MMT. The MMT founder said you have to be mindful of inflation when running deficits.
The main problem causing poverty in our country right now is the housing bubble. The rental vacancy rate in Mississauga is like 0.8% and the percentages are similarly anemic across the GTA. For rents to go down, we need to get that rental vacancy rate up to 3%. We need more housing supply. Getting rid of rent control would increase the supply a bit but we probably do need more residential and mixed-use zoning.
There's also a shockingly high percentage of Canadians who are unemployable and that's another factor behind poverty. The "not in labour force" segment of the population is not counted as unemployed in the statistics. The economy needs to be deregulated so that formerly chronically unemployed Canadians can get work. If you've been chronically unemployed, have mental illness, have a criminal record, etc. employers don't want to take a chance on you because of all the regulatory red tape and legalese bullshit.
I'd also like to see lower immigration numbers, because most of the hundreds of thousands of people arriving every year are going to a handful of the larger cities only.
This subject is taboo in Canadian politics unfortunately. Any sort of suggestion to reduce immigration gets you labelled a racist in Canadian political discourse. The wealthy want mass immigration because the wealthy want cheap labour and they want the housing bubble to continue to grow. And the left are useful idiots for the wealthy elites who don't even realize that mass immigration is a suicidal policy. Or maybe they are just suicidal doomers who don't care that it's a suicidal policy.
I have seen people on /leftypol/ argue that trying to push back against mass immigration in a modern global economy is a futile pointless exercise because capital is freely mobile. If the Canadian wealthy are unable to import cheap foreign labour, they can divest from Canadian businesses and invest in foreign businesses that employ cheap foreign labour. And to be fair I understand their point that there is going to be pushback from Canada's wealthy if we try to limit their access to cheap foreign labour. If we won't import cheap foreigners into Canada for the benefit of the wealthy investor class, they can just divest from Canadian enterprise and invest in foreign enterprise directly. The end-game for true far left types is for the material conditions to get so uncomfortable for the working class that the working class will do violent revolution and overthrow the bourgeoisie. And then you have the naive AOC far-left types who think that you can have first world prosperity for the western working class and mass immigration.
Also, foreign ownership of property and condos should be outright banned.
Foreign investment in real estate is a major problem. Unfortunately there are drawbacks to limiting foreign investment in real estate as well.
Look at this way: Let's say you did a favor for someone. They owe you one. And then you try calling in that favor later and then the person tells you, "no I don't want to do what you ask of me." What's the end result? You're not going to do any more favors for this person.
So if China is sending us all their cheap crap (it requires natural resources, labour, expertise, etc. to make these things. Even if much of it is cheap crap) and we don't give the Chinese what they want in return for that cheap crap (ie. Canadian real estate), the Chinese are going to stop sending us their cheap crap and our Canadian Dollar is going to lose value because foreign entities are going to lose faith in its value if they can't buy what they want with it. Canada doesn't really have anything else that China want buy. And we don't have the manufacturing to make our own stuff.
Ctv. According to them we are all begging for a chinese army bill gates vaccine too.
Probably sampling out of the golden triangle.
Real people don't answer polls. This sample is irrelevant.
Also, most right-wing folks I know don't vote.
I won't shill for the CPC. Bunch of useless fuckwits.
Agreed strongly.
I see this alot actually. My dad still has a perception that the NDP is the party of the working class and the Conservatives are the party of the rich. He actually gets very upset that I don't vote NDP because I "was born a peasant and will die a peasant".
He suffers from the fundamental misunderstanding of taxation, most people do actually. Jeff Bezos is completely fine with super high taxes, his salary is 80K a year, you can take all of it from him and won't care. Most of his wealth is locked up in assets and stocks. Plus once someone is rich, they don't mind a tax increase on your competitors (such as new entrepreneurs). They can afford it, and that person making 200K a year has less of a chance of becoming a competitor. This is why behind every socialist movement are rich dudes financing it.
Based Millennials? Guess it's up to the zoomers to help save the country
It does seem counter-intuitive that resistance to voting Conservative would increase with age. I think maybe the coronavirus situation might have something to do with it. From what I've noticed, boomers like my dad (early 70s, prostate cancer) are terrified of the virus. Gen Xers like my older siblings shame young people for having social lives during COVID. I'm my dad's pseudo-caretaker basically (I'm only in my mid-30s but my parents had me late) and my siblings don't even want me to see my girlfriend for fear that I'm going to get the virus and hospitalize/kill dad. Even though my girlfriend doesn't have symptoms, her 65 year old dad isn't sick either, etc. Whereas my generation and ESPECIALLY the zoomers and younger millennials are getting sick of the media shaming us for wanting social lives, sex lives, etc. Especially at my age, I'm at that in-between stage of my life where I'm not a spring chicken and I'm in the unfortunate position of having to be a caretaker earlier than usual because my parents had me late but I'm still young and want to enjoy what is left of my youth. And the parasitical boomers want our generation to sacrifice our youth and future for them after they had already fucked over my generation a long time ago.
And yes not all boomers asked for this lockdown and social distancing stuff. But there is a lot of finger wagging towards young people during this pandemic and we are getting sick of it.
Media might be to blame. Older generations watch MSM, not Youtube, and they're less on social media.
Declaring the conservatives "evil" doesn't make you good for voting liberal. Bunch of soft headed day dreamers, FFS.
Calling Liberals centralists now is a joke
I wish there was a real Conservative party in Canada.
I will probably vote PPC again, even if they are a tiny party.
Voting 'against' someone is a great way to ensure you never get the change you need.
I definitely will vote for PPC again. I'm not giving my vote to CPC.
Don't trust the polls.
hammy is a boomer that is fine with pumping the breaks while driving off a cliff because he won't be alive for the crash
Technically it's not borrowing because they just fire up the money printer. The national debt = government spending - taxation. It's only really borrowing in the sense that people expect their Canadian Dollars they are paid in to hold up in value well over time. Which isn't going to happen if you fire up the money printer too much.
The left is using Modern Monetary Theory to justify UBI and money printing. But that isn't what MMT advocates. I bought two books from MMT's founder 5 years ago. I am very well informed about MMT. The MMT founder said you have to be mindful of inflation when running deficits.
The main problem causing poverty in our country right now is the housing bubble. The rental vacancy rate in Mississauga is like 0.8% and the percentages are similarly anemic across the GTA. For rents to go down, we need to get that rental vacancy rate up to 3%. We need more housing supply. Getting rid of rent control would increase the supply a bit but we probably do need more residential and mixed-use zoning.
There's also a shockingly high percentage of Canadians who are unemployable and that's another factor behind poverty. The "not in labour force" segment of the population is not counted as unemployed in the statistics. The economy needs to be deregulated so that formerly chronically unemployed Canadians can get work. If you've been chronically unemployed, have mental illness, have a criminal record, etc. employers don't want to take a chance on you because of all the regulatory red tape and legalese bullshit.
This subject is taboo in Canadian politics unfortunately. Any sort of suggestion to reduce immigration gets you labelled a racist in Canadian political discourse. The wealthy want mass immigration because the wealthy want cheap labour and they want the housing bubble to continue to grow. And the left are useful idiots for the wealthy elites who don't even realize that mass immigration is a suicidal policy. Or maybe they are just suicidal doomers who don't care that it's a suicidal policy.
I have seen people on /leftypol/ argue that trying to push back against mass immigration in a modern global economy is a futile pointless exercise because capital is freely mobile. If the Canadian wealthy are unable to import cheap foreign labour, they can divest from Canadian businesses and invest in foreign businesses that employ cheap foreign labour. And to be fair I understand their point that there is going to be pushback from Canada's wealthy if we try to limit their access to cheap foreign labour. If we won't import cheap foreigners into Canada for the benefit of the wealthy investor class, they can just divest from Canadian enterprise and invest in foreign enterprise directly. The end-game for true far left types is for the material conditions to get so uncomfortable for the working class that the working class will do violent revolution and overthrow the bourgeoisie. And then you have the naive AOC far-left types who think that you can have first world prosperity for the western working class and mass immigration.
Foreign investment in real estate is a major problem. Unfortunately there are drawbacks to limiting foreign investment in real estate as well.
Look at this way: Let's say you did a favor for someone. They owe you one. And then you try calling in that favor later and then the person tells you, "no I don't want to do what you ask of me." What's the end result? You're not going to do any more favors for this person.
So if China is sending us all their cheap crap (it requires natural resources, labour, expertise, etc. to make these things. Even if much of it is cheap crap) and we don't give the Chinese what they want in return for that cheap crap (ie. Canadian real estate), the Chinese are going to stop sending us their cheap crap and our Canadian Dollar is going to lose value because foreign entities are going to lose faith in its value if they can't buy what they want with it. Canada doesn't really have anything else that China want buy. And we don't have the manufacturing to make our own stuff.