The current state of the Canadian Forces
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Original tweet location: https://twitter.com/CAFinUS/status/1312734325104873473
Time to cash in on that FREE HEALTHCARE we're always bragging about. See you in two years when you reach the front of the line.
Ok, the military remaining apolitical is critical to the preservation of a free society. They're the Canadian military. Not the conservative party military. Not the Liberal party military. The Canadian military.
The politicization of the military is what happens in backwards banana republics. Would-be tyrants indoctrinate the military into being personally loyal to them and their 'cause' instead of loyal the people and democracy, they purge the ranks of supporters of opposing parties, and the next thing you know the military is no longer a national military, it's a personal army of loyal thugs working for the tyrant against the people. Oppression and tyranny follow. See places like China where the military is just the communist party's muscle used to repress the citizens. That's what the Liberals are converting the CAF into.
Supporting gays? Ok, one could arguably excuse that as a human rights thing. But the CAF choosing a side in the proud boys vs antifa debate? Choosing to support communist insurrectionists against anti-communist counter-insurrectionists? That's what our military is doing now? Holy shit.
What's on your opinion on military members calling Trudy a traitor? Should they be kicked out for voicing a political opinion?
Did they do it in uniform and/or using official CAF social media accounts?
You're entitled to political opinions - as a private citizen. That's why soldiers are allowed to vote. They're even allowed to participate in party politics to an extent.
It's when the military itself gets involved in politics that a line is crossed. So wearing uniforms in political demonstrations like pride parades, using official CAF twitter accounts to cheerlead for communist revolutionaries - that should get you kicked out at the very least.
Like, perhaps, the CDS encouraging CF members to participate in Pride parades in uniform? To have LGBTQ+ "champions". To hoist the LGBTQ+ flag on a base, on the 11th of September? THat kind of involvement?
This is a problem with your stance in my opinion. Where is the line? Can I post a picture of me in my uniform on Facebook with the caption "Trudeau/O'Toole is a traitor that has to be stopped" as CAF member?
And btw, no CPC member will speak out against this tweet. They would be kicked out by O'Toole faster than Bernier can spell supply management.
The distinction between doing something in an official capacity as a representative of the government and doing it as a private citizen is a pretty well established and easy to follow distinction.
No, because that would be a soldier - an agent of the government who has a duty to be apolitical - engaging in politics. You are not speaking with your own voice when you present yourself as a soldier in uniform, you're speaking as a representative of the government. You do not get to superimpose your personal political opinions onto the military by expressing them publicly while in uniform.
It's not as we see with the soldier that posted anti-Trudeau rhetoric. When is a solider an official representative of the government and when not? If I as CAF member have set the profile picture of my FB account to a picture of me in uniform does that change everything I can or can't say on FB?
When he's in uniform. That's the whole point of the uniform - to label you an agent of the Canadian government. Every soldier knows this. It's not a grey area.
You're also acting as a representative of the government if/when you're posting with an official government social media account.
No because in a court martial you could successfully argue that the profile pic is a non political statement, and the political comment you made with you account is a separate statement made out of uniform. That's why people don't get in shit for doing that.
What isn't debatable is if you stood there in uniform and made a public political statement to the cameras. Captioning a pic of you in uniform with a political statement would be the online equivalent of that.
You don't have to be a lawyer to understand the distinction between making statements as a representative of the CAF, and making them as a private citizen.
I bet a lawyer could also successfully argue it isn't separate, but since neither of us are lawyers we pull out our ASSumptions.
Holy shit, someone who actually understands China.
George Soros.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/policies-standards/defence-administrative-orders-directives/5000-series/5019/5019-1-personal-relationships-and-fraternization.html
see 4.1
Personal Conduct
4.1 CAF members in a personal relationship must refrain from conduct that may be considered unprofessional in a military context. For example, a CAF member while in uniform in public with another person must not:
hold hands;
kiss, except in greeting and farewell;
or
caress or embrace in a romantic manner.
Yes. But fags get a pass. Lesbos too. because diversity.
Is this why I keep seeing CAF recruitments at the top of every job search? People aren't signing up to join them anymore so they're getting desperate. No joke, every single online job search, the CAF recruitment ads are always pushed to the top of my list and spammed in my face.
Why would anyone join the military of a nation where it's a promoted value to not have any sort of pride in the nation?
Oh they got 'pride' alright, just not the same kind of pride you and I are thinking of.
This is how civilizations collapse.
I'm a bit concerned about this one.
So the Armed Forces, in response to weird media shit from the US elections (where the media is trying to convince people that the Proud Boys are white supremacists in an attempt to smear Trump as being white supremacist) decide to troll the Proud Boys on twitter with a hashtag where they have guys kiss?
Not only is this stupid. It's also retarded.
The Proud Boys aren't white supremacists, they aren't relevant and more importantly they've been kicked off twitter for years now. The Armed Forces should know that; that's the stupid part.
The retarded part is that they're involving themselves in a US election in a partisan manner, which is terrible for our relations and even worse, they're doing it for the wrong candidate.
Could you even imagine what the reaction would be in Canada if the US Army did the same thing to us?
Even more retarded though, is that this isn't even going to irritate the Proud Boys because they aren't homophobic in the slightest. I'd wager there was more gay soldiers in the Proud Boys than in the entire Canadian Army and their leader, Gavin MacInnes has done a ton of gay shit. He's made out with Milo Yiannopoulos on multiple occasions, stuck a dildo up his ass, and he's posed in women's lingerie more times than Colonel Williams.
It's all very, very stupid. I've got a few concerns about the state of our military at the moment.
The Proud Boys leader is a black hispanic. But yeah, he's like a real white shpremacist.
I reposted this one to theDonald, they were laughing their asses off at how pathetic it is. Proud Boys may have been unknown, but they're coming back thanks to the dumbass mainstream media giving them the free press. The only thing that's actually irrelevant here is the CAF.
Gavin MacInnes is a gross fool. Didn't they kick him out? Or didn't he abandon them when they turned into more a liability machine than a money machine?
Gavin MacInnes can write like a motherfucker and he's hilarious.
He ended up quitting the group because a guy was being prosecuted after a brawl with antifa and his lawyers felt that him dissociating from the group would help his case.
It didn't, that guy got an incredibly unfair sentence.
You shouldn't be talking that way about Gavin fucking MacInnes. No matter how he's sold out, and how selling out has fucked him (imagine if Vice was still nothing but him writing under pen-names, instead of the atrocity it's become) he's still one of Canada's greatest celebrities.
(To leave this country's tax system after having used our grants to ensure his rise.)
(As is tradition.)
I'm sure there's more to it than is apparent to me, but in my view, it's a case of trying and failing to repair an inevitable failure. He isn't what men need. He isn't what boys need. He never knew what he was doing.
The best and worst thing I can say about him, is that he apparently knew how to do it, though.
Gavin MacInnes is a comedian and a writer, and a talented one at that but I agree with you fully when he tried to be a role model and got involved with all the Proud Boys shit.
If he'd stuck with just having it as a men's group then he'd be fine. There is nothing wrong with fraternal orders of men having drinks together, that's great for society as a whole.
The problem was that he was doing that "offensive speakers come to a liberal university campus" shit and he started encouraging the group to come out and fight back against Anti-fa. That was what sent the group off-the-rails.
There is nothing to be gained by fighting antifa apart from clicks and crowdfunding.
He should have stayed in his lane. He's a clown, not a leader and he's certainly no Mussolini.
He could have had his fun men's club, harvested the popularity and done whatever but instead he had to flush the entire thing down the toilet because he wanted to do lucrative speaking tours with Milo Yiannopoulos and Anne fucking Coulter.
It's a shame.
Hmm, that's a perspective I hadn't considered. Well, hopefully things turn out better with him in the future.
He needs to come home.
I love the States, but the States can be poisonous for many Canadians.
As has been the case with Gavin MacInnes.
Haha in so many ways. All my foreign friends get fat here. I'm still fit because I know the evil ways of the griddle haha
Alcohol culture is hard on some people, too. I'm not sure Canada is much different, really, but my European friends had said that the States are more intense and less social about acohol, in some ways. And it throws them.
https://i.imgur.com/tyd5Ywc.jpeg
What is China waiting for?
China doesn't want this shit to infect their society either. They're smart in that regard, they know what type of stuff can destroy a society. They support this shit internationally so they can systemically destroy all the West and their allies but they wouldn't tolerate this shit in their own country. That's why in China if you get caught with drugs it's almost always an automatic death penalty but they love exporting drugs to Western countries.
Untill your not wearing the uniform, then it means dont drop the soap.
Dang. I heaard of the Navy tradition of "pig of the Port", but this is ridiculous.
And the problem is??
Check ya bigotry