Okay here is the study PHAC presented to the government, that you’re saying is wrong:
Conclusion: The risk of COVID-19 transmission on an aircraft is low, even with infectious persons onboard.
We have centuries of data on communicable diseases.
If your side would share the data they're basing their current and previous policy off, that would mean something.
Until we see the secret data, which proves the PHAC meta-report wrong, I'm going to stick with the PHAC position.
Refusing to provide important data is suspicious.
She says there are better strategies than cloth masks. She does not say, as you would like to claim...
No wrong again. 1:52, she says "cloth masks don't work in any form"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cRuA9EizBM&t=113s
Your theories...
Wrong, not an opinion, fact. Publicly available data from statscan. Hospitals have been overwhelmed by obesity and opioid "epidemics" for years. Everyone knows this and I've linked sources. Do I need to re-link the data every time you make the same false claim?
The vaccinated elderly hospitalized don't travel, and the ones who aren't hospitalized aren't sick.
Elderly and obese are the highest risk group regardless of vaccination status. Preventing a healthy 20 y/o from entering because of "risk" to the healthcare system, while simultaneously allowing an elderly vaccinated elderly person makes no sense if your policy is intended to protect hospital capacity.
Further why is our healthcare system so weak it can't handle allowing unvaccinated travelers to enter, when the vast majority of countries have no problem with this.
No they weren’t recommended at all, as stated by PHAC top epidemiologist under oath.
You want me to link the court transcript again?
Not an opinion, meta study presented by the Canadian top authority to the government, linked here multiple times.
You’re not “trusting the science” you’re trusting the Liberals over the science.
They're like seat belts.
No they're not. There is a standard with seat belts. We have 50 years data on seat belts. People are not prevented from entering Canada for not wearing a seat belt.
From your own link: "the “CDC continues to recommend that any mask is better than no mask"
“I don’t understand the CDC’s recommendations for this,” Brosseau said. “My guess is that there’s a lot of political pressure. And no government agency is entirely immune from political pressure.” -Lisa Brosseau, ScD, nationally recognized expert on infectious diseases
There's something to be said for not having the hospitals plugged with covid patients, because people get sick from other things too.
Hospitals are plugged up mostly by preventable things, that have no mandates, like engorging with fat and sugar, and sedentary behavior.
Most of the people hospitalized are elderly vaccinated. Why are they allowed to travel?
Hundreds of millions.
you're
Go back to grade 3 English class.
Reminder neither Canada's top epidemiologist or PHAC recommended the vaccine mandates on planes or trains.
She indicated this on record, under oath.
Of course this contradicts the ongoing Liberal lies.
It does perfectly explain the Liberals refusal to provide evidence backing up "The Science".
Liberal politicians' guesses/gut feelings = The Science.
Study presented to government by PHAC = Dangerous Disinformation.
That's why masks are needed on planes and trains but not in Parliament.
Dr. Lisa Waddell, an epidemiologist at the Public Health Agency of Canada was one of the witnesses. She’s also author of a study for PHAC which showed little transmission on airplanes.
“A meta-analysis of studies from January–June 2020 found the risk of being infected with SARS-CoV-2 in an airplane cabin was estimated to be 1 case for every 1.7 million travelers,” the report stated.
But if you disagree with the unscientific mandates you're a fringe minority who doesn't believe in science and shouldn't be tolerated.
University booster mandates are unethical because: 1) no formal risk-benefit assessment exists for this age group; 2) vaccine mandates may result in a net expected harm to individual young people; 3) mandates are not proportionate: expected harms are not outweighed by public health benefits given the modest and transient effectiveness of vaccines against transmission; 4) US mandates violate the reciprocity principle because rare serious vaccine-related harms will not be reliably compensated due to gaps in current vaccine injury schemes; and 5) mandates create wider social harms.
Of course Liberals don’t care, because politics
You were pretending cloth masks work.
Liberals partisan liars are forced to pretend they do.
LPC politics allows for cloth masks on planes.
This is an obvious demonstration that the policy isn't science or medical based, but a political calculation.
It also explains why Liberals (such as you) refuse to provide any evidence whatsoever that your unscientific political policy is currently any saving lives at all.
Of course it is the Liberals who must defend their policy- per the charter, restrictions must be "demonstrably justified".
So please, since your leader refuses, please demonstrably justify how cloth masks on flights are currently saving lives.
If you can't do that you're admitting I'm right.
Here is where your leader threatens more restrictions if 80% - 90% don't get boosted:
What about the actual statement.
How do you square it with Trudeau threatening restrictions if 80-90% don’t get boosted.
Could it have anything to do with Trudeau ordering about 10 doses for everyone in the country?
Nah you won’t question it, you’ll just blindly promote anything the Liberal Party says since you’re too stupid to consider anything other than their narrative.
Notice they don’t mention masks, since they follow medical science, not leftist political science.
Yes, and let’s not forget many of the remaining people that compromise that 100% figure remain to be unvaxxed and alive.
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Yes, agreed the term is bullshit.
Doesn’t matter if you’re a minority you should be treated fairly.
But I have no problem stooping to whatever level they do.
Should I remind you again that you made the polio vaccine comparison? Why and when did you stop? Or do you still make that comparison?
And what about influenza?
Okay go, what about influenza? I've had many of those shots, no one ever tried mandating it though. Also no one ever contended it was a serializing vaccine. All previously mandated vaccines came with a set number of doses.
There are already several on the list that can win you 4 shots by the time you're 15 months old.
How many covid vaccines will your side be mandating? Is it a determinate number, or just as many as the Liberals decide? Will we start following the majority of countries, or will we remain on your shrinking list with North Korea and China?
Oh you don't compare the covid vaccine to the polio vaccine anymore?
Why did you before?
When did you stop making the comparison?
Why did you stop making the comparison?
You never learn, do you? Where is your data to support that statement?>
Holy shit you're stupid. The data was from your Kayak link. Do you need me to re-link it for you?
It says unvaxxed can get into 184 Countries including 99 without testing or isolation.
The difference between us is that so far you don't have any support for your opinions, and I can show you where your statements are wrong.>
Your link. Vast majority of countries allow unvaxxed per WHO guidance.
What data do you have? The rest of the world has numerous examples to choose from. Why don't you present some data to support your contention that Trudeau is withholding something?>
Are you incapable of comprehending burden of proof? JT has to provide the evidence he's using to group us with NK and Lybia. In the Charter its called "demonstrable justification". So go ahead and demonstrably justify. Oh wait your side refuses to obey the Charter.
But here:
The World Health Organization (“WHO”) continues to maintain that position and on January 19, 2022, urged all countries to: “Lift or ease international traffic bans as they do not provide added value and continue to contribute to the economic and social stress experienced by States Parties. The failure of travel restrictions introduced after the detection and reporting of Omicron variant to limit international spread of Omicron demonstrates the ineffectiveness of such measures over time.” The WHO repeated that countries should: “not require proof of vaccination against COVID-19 for international travel.” (World Health Organization, Statement on the tenth meeting of the International Health Regulations (2005) Emergency Committee regarding the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic, January 19, 2022.) >
Your side is obsessed with grouping us with countries like North Korea and Lybia.
How about grouping us with the 90% of countries that are following the science?
Also I think it’s pretty important to show that Trudeau acts in lockstep with China’s basic dictatorship.
He did after all famously point to it as his most admired foreign country.
Of course Liberals refuse to acknowledge that, given it’s poor political optics. Lying by omission is age d tactic of Liberals.
Trudeau is the science!