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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, there is acceptance of the religion Jesus established or rejection of it.

If you accept it, you convert to Catholicism.

If you reject it, you join the ranks of the deceive. You join one of the thousands of sects that rejects either Apostolic authority altogether (which even Luther didn't agree with...I'm not really sure where in the world modern Protestant Christians got their ideas from...wasn't Luther) and the authority of the Pope, OR you accept Apostolic authority BUT reject the office of the Pope.

From there you have all of the 40,000+ sects of non-Catholicism.

Of the 2 billion Christians in the world, half are Catholic. That means of the 50% who are not Catholic, there are THOUSANDS of different interpretations of the Bible because all of these people think they can be their own Popes. Hilariously flawed logic.

Those are the lines. This is the root.

Everything else is deception.

So "have I read the Bible" is kinda a non sequitur. You're asking me if I have a Freemasonic (gnostic/Hermetic/Luciferan, etc) view of the Bible or a Catholic one. I have a Catholic interpretation of the Bible but I came from an LDS background and have studied religion for years. It's a hobby of mine.

If everyone is free to interpret the Bible, who gave us that authority?

Jesus didn't. Jesus gave SIMON BAR JONAH renamed SIMON PETER. PETER MEANS ROCK.

Jesus gave "rock" (PETER) the Authority on Earth to BIND AND LOOSE.

Peter was the first Pope.

Freemasons have set their sights on destroying the Catholic church for hundreds of years. SPECIFICALLY the Papacy! Its on record. It's history. Its not even debated. Freemasons are very open about this. The ones that are in the know. The low level degrees are footsoldiers for Satan and his NWO "utopia". The Freemasons reject Papal authority and destroy Catholic Monarchies (AHEM FRANCE? RING A BELL? ALL REVOLUTIONS, Satan, their daddy, was the first REVOLUTIONARY and was kicked out of Heaven for it). NWO/Qabballists/Freemasons/Protestants/Mormons/Hermeticism/Confucism/Theosophy/Rosicrucianism are all dead-set against the Papacy. Gee, I wonder why? Why attack something if its false? Why attack a LARP? The disgusting things you see come from the Catholic church are 1. infiltrators. Remember the Capital riots? Glow Boys dressed as Q and MAGA, pretending to be us so we take the blame? You don't think the Freemasons did that to the Catholic church too? And then they play it all over the Freemasonic Legacy News Mockingbird Media?

Gee. I'm seeing patterns. Are YOU PAYING ATTENTION YET?

Why would the MSM smear Trump and you don't buy it but when the Catholic church is smeared, you bite. A Freemasonic infiltration of the church has occurred. You are being shown the dirt in an effort to get you to turn your back on the true religion called Catholicism. It is your inheritance and Satan plus his foot-soldiers the Second Temple/Qabbalistic/Talmudic Jews, Pagans, Freemasons, Muslims, and Gnostics are all trying to rob you of your inheritance. You're helping them but refusing to listen.

I don't need to hear about interpretations. I'm familiar. This is about your understanding of what we're discussing, not mine. I know where I stand and I've studied the worldview you're in. I left it because of lack of logical conclusions.

Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”…

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's too narrow. That doesn't correctly identify the problem. It's more nuanced than "Muh Jesuits!" That's the Freemasonic boogeyman. The "omg Jesuit!" whistleblowers are always shady characters themselves. If New York Times calls your anti-Jesuit book the best book of the year, we have a fuckin' problem, no?

Where do you get your news about the Vatican? From...Legacy Media? Well Legacy Media is NWO and they have an anti-Catholic agenda to maintain. It's been written about for hundreds of years.

This is a very old war. Made new in 2021 for those who don't know their history.

Jesuits began as a anti-Communist order. Even if they WERE infiltrated, calling the Jesuits the problem isn't going to help. You are still swinging at a shadow.

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

God says what the proper interpretation is.

That is not how this works. There are over 40,000 Protestant denominations alone because they do not agree on scripture interpretation.

You all want to be your own Popes. You think you have the authority to determine what the Bible means when it says something. That's a big mistake.

The difference between the Catholic church and all other religions is their authority. Jesus established the church with PETER, who was originally named Simon Bar Jonah, renamed PETER (translation for ROCK).

He literallly renamed an Apostle "Rock" and said upon PETER he would build His church.

The Church has the authority, not any Protestant denomination. Besides, none of the Protestant/Freemason Revolutions was ever about theology specifically but moreso getting away from Catholic dogma which taught such things as: NO DIVORCE. Kings didn't like that.

History. Try it out sometime.

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

My claim is that the Freemasons are the footsoldiers of the NWO and are the adversary of the Catholic church.

You're trying to twist this conversation away from your bullshit claims and onto my credibility instead of addressing the primary sources I provided for you.

Your argument seems to be that the Catholic church is part of the NWO. I told you it is the part of the church that is Catholic in name only. They are infiltrators and have put on paper how they plan to destroy the church via infiltration. Helena Blavatsky is another example in her book ISIS Unveiled.

I notice you didn't address my critique of truther websites. It seems you use the internet. That is no different from watching TV or attending college if you do not have proper information hygiene. From your responses, I can tell you have spent time in the anti-Catholic world of Freemasonic propaganda. Good job.

Tell me, if you and I read the same Bible and disagree on interpretation, who is corrrect? Who has the authority to say what the proper interpreation is?

Do you enjoy being your own little Pope? Do you enjoy protesting the Catholic church? Great. The Freemasonic NWO is for you. You'll be fine. The Synagogue of Satan will rise to power and you will be beheaded under the Noahide Laws. You know the Freemasons were originally called Noachides, right?

Keep it up!

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

All of it. What does that have to do with the information I just gave you? You just keep moving goal posts.

https://fatima.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/BT057-Alta-Vendita-2019-WEB2.pdf - The Permanent Instruction of the ALTA VENDITA: A MASONIC BLUEPRINT FOR THE SUBVERISON OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Few Catholics know of The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita, a secret document written in the early 19th century that mapped out a blueprint for the subversion of the Catholic Church. The Alta Vendita was the highest lodge of the Carbonari, an Italian secret society with links to Freemasonry and which, along with Freemasonry, was condemned by the Catholic Church.1 Fr. E. Cahill, S.J. in his book Freemasonry and the Anti-Christian Movement states that the Alta Vendita was “commonly supposed to have been at the time the governing centre of European Freemasonry.”2 The Carbonari were most active in Italy and France. In his book Athanasius and the Church of Our Time, Bishop Rudolph Graber quoted a Freemason who declared, “The goal [of Freemasonry] is no longer the destruction of the Church, but to make use of it by infiltrating it.”3 In other words, since Freemasonry cannot completely obliterate Christ’s Church, it plans not only to eradicate the influence of Catholicism in society, but also to use the Church’s structure as an instrument of “renewal,” “progress” and “enlightenment” to further many of its own principles and goals. An Outline The strategy advanced in The Permanent Instruction of 2 the Alta Vendita is astonishing in its audacity and cunning. From the start, the document tells of a process that will take decades to accomplish. Those who drew up the document knew that they would not see its fulfillment. They were inaugurating a work that would be carried on by succeeding generations of the initiated. The Permanent Instruction states, “In our ranks the solider dies and the struggle goes on.” The Instruction called for the dissemination of liberal ideas and axioms throughout society and within the institutions of the Catholic Church so that laity, seminarians, clerics and prelates would, over the years, gradually be imbued with progressive principles. In time, this mind-set would be so pervasive that priests would be ordained, bishops would be consecrated and cardinals would be nominated whose thinking was in step with the modern thought rooted in the French Revolution’s Declaration of the Rights of Man and other “Principles of 1789” (equality of religions, separation of Church and State, religious pluralism, etc.). Eventually, a Pope would be elected from these ranks who would lead the Church on the path of “enlightenment” and “renewal.” They stated that it was not their aim to place a Freemason on the Chair of Peter. Their goal was to effect an environment that would eventually produce a Pope and a hierarchy won over to the ideas of liberal Catholicism, but who would all the while believe themselves to be faithful Catholics. 3 These Catholic leaders, then, would no longer oppose the modern ideas of the Revolution (as has been the consistent practice of the Popes from 1789 until 1958 – the death of Pope Pius XII – who condemned these liberal principles) but would amalgamate them into the Church. The end result would be a Catholic clergy and laity marching under the banner of the Enlightenment, all the while thinking they are marching under the banner of the Apostolic keys.

By the way, I don't see the MOSSAD MEDIA MATRIX LEGACY MEDIA attacking your little church. Nope. It's always the Catholic church. Like the Q movement, why attack it if its just a LARP?

Freemasons are NWO footsoldiers, like I told you and you refuse to listen. The Freemasonic NWO seeks to destroy Old World Catholic Monarchies which ruled together with the state under God's authority.

Doesn't the French Revolution come to mind? They do the same thing OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQsEJtJEwEk - The French Revolution: The Background

Where you are headed? Noahide Laws.

You'd do well to watch that playlist. It's literally the very least you could do to educate yourself. Public school and TV aren't going to teach you this, honey. Neither with the "truther" Mossad Alex Jones type, nor the Freemasonic/Enlightenment types...which is most content available to you. Public education? Told through a Freemasonic lens. Books at the library? Anti-Catholic, pro-Freemasonic bias. Uh oh. What if your world view was shaped by Freemasons? Oh noes!

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

The INFILTRATION WITHIN the Catholic church is uniting all of the global religions together.

I already told you. Its been their agenda, STATED AGENDA, it's on paper, for centuries now.

The Freemasons have infiltrated the Catholic church and are using the body to drive the world into Communism.

Some suspect this is what the third secret of Fatima was supposed to exposed but the third secret was never read...even though it was supposed to be.

Once the Masons make it inside, why in the world would they go and warn the people about their successful infiltration?

Did you read the Alta Vendita yet? Did you read Blavatsky's ISIS Unveiled? No. No. You are just ignorant. You won't even watch a simple series of videos on the matter. You're adamant about arguing from a place of utter ignorance of history.

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okaydoomer 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, that is not what you said at all.

moreso old world footsoldiers. and do you know what will replace the old world? hell on earth.

The Freemasons are NWO footsoldiers. They will bring about their idea of utopia through the UN, which is one of the highest courts of Freemasonry on the planet.

While the Catholic church has been invaded by these NWO footsoldiers, that does not mean The Holy Roman Catholic Church is therefore the NWO or Freemasonic. The Catholic church is ANTI-FREEMASON, ANTI-COMMUNISM, SINCE THE INCEPTION OF IT.

The Alta Vendita is very clear about the Freemasonic agenda to infiltrate the Catholic churches. It's a Freemasonic document, not a Catholic document. Helena Blavatsky, Hitler and the KKK were also vehemently anti-Catholic. Think about the glue that binds those three...ideologically speaking. If you don't know, you have no idea what you are doing here.

Freemasons are NOT "Old World" foot soldiers.

Freemasonry and Catholicism are antithetical to one another - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEwo17dz1eA

The Old World has fought with the Freemasons since the Church's inception in 33 AD when Jesus established it. Gnosticism was the first heresy battled and gnosticism is the root of Freemasonry. Obviously the ideological war goes further back than this, but the physical manifestation of God's Kingdom on Earth was the Holy Roman Empire and Freemasons and their ideological bedfellows have done nothing but destroy Catholic monarchy because THEY WANT TO BE THEIR OWN GODS!

"To be deep in history is to cease being a protestant" Blessed John Henry Cardinal Newman 1801-1890

I recommend the entire playlist.

Satan is stealing your inheritance and you are helping him do it.

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okaydoomer 5 points ago +8 / -3

Canadian Masons are still NWO footsoldiers and influence your local population. That should be enough to bother you.