Their position is that you shouldn't be allowed to leave your house for non-essential reasons so that you don't give them the virus when they leave their house for essential reasons.
I disagree with their position because I'm sick of being on house arrest. Social isolation is not good for mental health. Mass unemployment is not good for society. It's been 9+ months of this social distancing shit. Even when the government first made it legal to meet people outside your household back in the summer, my family buying into the CNN propaganda was shaming me for going to see my gf. "You're going to catch the virus and kill your dad." And since November 23rd it's been illegal to meet people outside your household in Toronto and Peel again.
It's been 9+ months of this social distancing shit.
I don't know where you live, but after the restriction were lifted in late April absolutely nobody gave a shit about social distancing here in Sask. Everything was open, we had festivals, people went to the swimming pool, gyms were filled again. Like nothing happened. It was more like two months of social distancing, then a 6 month break and now we're under house arrest again.
If you can handle the weather. Last weekend we had -30 degrees during the day. Today it's 0 degrees. Tomorrow again down to -20 degrees. Saturday back to +1 degrees. And early next week back to -22.
I don't see how printing a bunch of money while reducing the number of goods and services available for purchase due to lockdowns is going to help the economy. I have seen grocery prices go up at the supermarkets. McDonald's value menu is more expensive. These big corporations see all the CERB, CEBA money that people are getting and think to themselves, "I'm going to raise prices and get myself a piece of that."
I have noticed utility prices go up too. Water, electricity, telecom, probably heating too.
Since all this bullshit started, there's been something nagging at me from the back of my mind. Since when is it mine, or anybody else's responsibility to make anyone else feel safe. What works for me might not work for you or vice versa.
Say you were walking home, and you come across a dark alley you could cross through to get home faster. Sure, it's spooky that way, and if you take the longer well-lit way you might feel safer. I'd take the alley. Not everyone will.
Like if I were to go into a store crowded with people not wearing masks, I might actually want to wear one. Why? Because I'd feel better. I'm sure as hell not going to tell everyone else what they're doing might affect me. I can also choose to turn around and walk right the fuck out. Basic civil liberties here, it's not a hard concept to grasp, but here we are.
The fact that probably half of the general population's opinion of you is riding on whether you are, or aren't wearing a piece of fabric on your face, and the speed of which said opinion went balls to the wall crazy is incredibly frightening to me. What the fuck happened?
Since when is it mine, or anybody else's responsibility to make anyone else feel safe.
I mean, we have laws against impaired driving, operating machines without a specific license, smoking inside of public buildings, and so on. All "responsibilities to make anyone else feel safe".
Impaired driving and smoking do cause harm to people.
We have licenses for all sorts of things, from being an engineer to operating a food truck.
The problem is, masks don't work, the government admits they don't work, no one has any RCT-level evidence that they do work, yet here we are. Lockdowns don't have any evidence of working either. And mandatory vaccines are against international and federal human rights laws, as are any mandatory medical procedures.
Strict lockdowns work. Look at Israel, Poland, Austria or the Czech Republic. They locked down everything. Closed all schools, all non-essential services and shops, mandatory home office and so on. Israel had 9000 cases every day and they went down to about 200 to 300. Now they opened up and the cases rise again. Same goes for Poland. From 25 to 30k a day down to less than 5k. Austria, from 10k a day down to 2k. What doesn't work is the current patchwork lockdown, where some areas are open and some are not. And some businesses are open and some are not.
And mandatory vaccines
Not even the Liberals are talking about mandatory vaccines.
Hey, I know that your mother dropped you a couple of times on your head when you were little, but nowhere did I say I support strict lockdowns. I only said that strict lockdowns work to bring the numbers down. You can take a look at the numbers of countries that did a strict lockdown as pointed out above. Their numbers went down. Does Ontario have a strict lockdown? No. Peel and Toronto are locked down, but anyone can leave these regions and go shopping in a mall in the next town over.
And while in Canada the death toll isn't that high, it is higher in other countries. Sweden has the highest death rate since the Spanish flu in 1918.
Compared to 2019 or 2018 this year over 300,000 more Americans will die. You can blame Covid for it, you can blame more suicides for it or any other suffering.
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a rise in muggings and robberies due to everyone covering their faces. It's the perfect time for someone to just waltz into a bank with a mask on and nobody would even bat an eye at it.
Their position is that you shouldn't be allowed to leave your house for non-essential reasons so that you don't give them the virus when they leave their house for essential reasons.
I disagree with their position because I'm sick of being on house arrest. Social isolation is not good for mental health. Mass unemployment is not good for society. It's been 9+ months of this social distancing shit. Even when the government first made it legal to meet people outside your household back in the summer, my family buying into the CNN propaganda was shaming me for going to see my gf. "You're going to catch the virus and kill your dad." And since November 23rd it's been illegal to meet people outside your household in Toronto and Peel again.
I don't know where you live, but after the restriction were lifted in late April absolutely nobody gave a shit about social distancing here in Sask. Everything was open, we had festivals, people went to the swimming pool, gyms were filled again. Like nothing happened. It was more like two months of social distancing, then a 6 month break and now we're under house arrest again.
If you can handle the weather. Last weekend we had -30 degrees during the day. Today it's 0 degrees. Tomorrow again down to -20 degrees. Saturday back to +1 degrees. And early next week back to -22.
I live in a town without RCMP station, so even now nobody gives really a fuck.
We already have a big recession.
I don't see how printing a bunch of money while reducing the number of goods and services available for purchase due to lockdowns is going to help the economy. I have seen grocery prices go up at the supermarkets. McDonald's value menu is more expensive. These big corporations see all the CERB, CEBA money that people are getting and think to themselves, "I'm going to raise prices and get myself a piece of that."
I have noticed utility prices go up too. Water, electricity, telecom, probably heating too.
Since all this bullshit started, there's been something nagging at me from the back of my mind. Since when is it mine, or anybody else's responsibility to make anyone else feel safe. What works for me might not work for you or vice versa.
Say you were walking home, and you come across a dark alley you could cross through to get home faster. Sure, it's spooky that way, and if you take the longer well-lit way you might feel safer. I'd take the alley. Not everyone will.
Like if I were to go into a store crowded with people not wearing masks, I might actually want to wear one. Why? Because I'd feel better. I'm sure as hell not going to tell everyone else what they're doing might affect me. I can also choose to turn around and walk right the fuck out. Basic civil liberties here, it's not a hard concept to grasp, but here we are.
The fact that probably half of the general population's opinion of you is riding on whether you are, or aren't wearing a piece of fabric on your face, and the speed of which said opinion went balls to the wall crazy is incredibly frightening to me. What the fuck happened?
You might be thinking about something similar to "negative rights" and "positive rights."
In the U.S. at least freedom of assembly includes freedom to assemble to work, which they are denying with the lockdowns.
Who ever thought we'd need a "freedom to work" law. Really crazy.
Granted freedoms aren't really freedoms if they can "suspend" them indefinitely.
I mean, we have laws against impaired driving, operating machines without a specific license, smoking inside of public buildings, and so on. All "responsibilities to make anyone else feel safe".
Impaired driving and smoking do cause harm to people.
We have licenses for all sorts of things, from being an engineer to operating a food truck.
The problem is, masks don't work, the government admits they don't work, no one has any RCT-level evidence that they do work, yet here we are. Lockdowns don't have any evidence of working either. And mandatory vaccines are against international and federal human rights laws, as are any mandatory medical procedures.
Strict lockdowns work. Look at Israel, Poland, Austria or the Czech Republic. They locked down everything. Closed all schools, all non-essential services and shops, mandatory home office and so on. Israel had 9000 cases every day and they went down to about 200 to 300. Now they opened up and the cases rise again. Same goes for Poland. From 25 to 30k a day down to less than 5k. Austria, from 10k a day down to 2k. What doesn't work is the current patchwork lockdown, where some areas are open and some are not. And some businesses are open and some are not.
Not even the Liberals are talking about mandatory vaccines.
Hey, I know that your mother dropped you a couple of times on your head when you were little, but nowhere did I say I support strict lockdowns. I only said that strict lockdowns work to bring the numbers down. You can take a look at the numbers of countries that did a strict lockdown as pointed out above. Their numbers went down. Does Ontario have a strict lockdown? No. Peel and Toronto are locked down, but anyone can leave these regions and go shopping in a mall in the next town over.
And while in Canada the death toll isn't that high, it is higher in other countries. Sweden has the highest death rate since the Spanish flu in 1918.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-sweden-deadliest-november-spanish-flu.html
In England the access deaths are now over 65k compared to prior years:
https://fingertips.phe.org.uk/static-reports/mortality-surveillance/excess-mortality-in-england-latest.html
Here are the total deaths in the US per week since 2017.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Compared to 2019 or 2018 this year over 300,000 more Americans will die. You can blame Covid for it, you can blame more suicides for it or any other suffering.
You argue like a Liberal.
"Wear your mask or you will kill grandpa!" "But I don't have any symptoms, how can I..." "STOP ENDANGERING LIVES YOU SELFISH PERSON"
What it's like to live in Calgary atm...
I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been a rise in muggings and robberies due to everyone covering their faces. It's the perfect time for someone to just waltz into a bank with a mask on and nobody would even bat an eye at it.