You have been permanently banned from participating in r/canada. You can still view and subscribe to r/canada, but you won't be able to post or comment.
Your Comment/Post Text: > This comment thread is a disgusting parade of bootlicking Stasi. We have learned nothing from the 20th century. All nations have the government they deserve, and from what I'm seeing not only on this CCP influenced website but acroas Canada is a hateful, propagandized, authoritarian, hyprocritical people. For all the virtue signalling of moral superiority, you don't understand the irony or the context of your hate for your God given rights, or even the science of this hardly novel disease. What a pathetic excuse for a free and free-thinking people the redditors of Canada are.
BeetlejuiceForSenate
A comment calling out dehumanizing and targeting others is worthy of a ban, but the comments advocating for it are not?
I did not single out any group; I am disappointed in all Canadians and those who use this website. Is disappointment and desire for better and more informed discourse a ban-able offence?
r/Canada Moderator
COVID-19 is real and it is serious. People who listen to the medical science of this pandemic are not a 'hateful, propagandized, authoritarian, hyprocritical people'
I don't know what agenda you are pushing trying to spread harm to real-world Canadians by demonizing medical science but you may not use this forum to do so. Please-re-evaluate your lack of empathy for the real harm this disease is causing to those infected by it.
BeetlejuiceForSenate
You are misrepresenting my comment and making assumptions by deriving meaning beyond what is written. Covid is only a minor part of that comment where I write, "a hardly novel disease". Still novel, but not unprecedented is what that means. That speaks nothing to the reality or seriousness of Sars-CoV-2 (as you claim I dispute) as a virus or disease, but only how a new contagion has changed the mentality of the public despite it being related to past contagions, most obviously Sars-Cov-1. Feel free to browse my profile history, I have never denied the reality of the virus but only the responses to it.
Covid itself is only a minor part of my comment, and I discuss it in no way the above moderator has accused me of. The main points of my comment are how so many, the vast majority of commenters, are actively repeating the mistakes that literally led to the rise of of ideologies that killed millions in the 20th century. Never mind the total disregard for the subreddit's own #2 rule in which many sections are clearly disrespected across the comment thread. I do not scold the entirety of the comment thread and the people of Canada as alleged by the above moderator for "listening to science", but for their quick acceptance of authority (appeal to authority logical fallacy), the media, and government. These powers are not medical science!
My comment is not about biology, but sociology and tribalism. My concern, and my comment, is about how we as a country are falling for the same mistakes that led to the tragedies of the 20th Century, hence the first sentence referring to the Stasi. Sadly, there are parallels to how these regimes rose to what is happening today in Canada.
And however you consider this appeal, please do not ever again presume my or anyone's capacity for empathy. It is entirely empathy for why I write such a comment. I want my country to do better. I don't ever want to live in a totalitarian regime where legitimate criticism is harassed, doxed, or censored. And that is what this comment thread is displaying at large, and that is what I was disgusted by.
BeetlejuiceForSenate
I am totally confused. I still cannot understand even after writing an essay what my problem is with the moderation of this sub. I can't see how I've broken any rules.
r/Canada Moderator
The medical professionals who are endeavouring to protect Canadians are not the equivalent of East German secret police.
Your so-called 'essay' tries to do nothing more than politicize the advice of Health Canada and provincial health authorities, falsely deflecting it to your chosen enemies of 'the media and government', as if the pandemic is some vast plot to seize liberties rather than a real health crisis.
Your airy ideals in your closing paragraph fall apart in the face of your agenda to portray those taking medical science seriously as 'boot-licking Stasi'. The pandemic is real, and your inflammatory and divisive politicization of apolitical medical guidelines will have the side effect of harming real Canadians. You may not use this platform to do so.
BeetlejuiceForSenate
My comment was on the public, on the parallels to the Stasi and how they developed a network of citizen informants that spied on each other. People are calling for the government to use its powers to deplatform an elected representative exercising his constitutional rights (you mention the seizure of liberties. Health crisis or no, this is clearly the case and Randy Hillier and all Canadians have a right and a duty to oppose tyrannical government using emergency powers to justify an unlawful and unprecedented assault on basic civil liberties). We should not have to repeat the mistakes of the 20th century for any disease.
It is not following medical science to call the police on your neighbours for having a family gathering, that is a bootlicking Stasi-like informant. If r/Canada can allow comments such as:
This guy is a fucking piece of shit and the nuts don't fall too far from the shit tree if that photo is anything to go by.
If anything give the fucker a ticket at least. He provided evidence, which at the very least should provide reasoning that he is far too fucking stupid to hold a public office.
Fuck me what a bunch of douchbags
This guy is begging to be made an example of
Oh look, a family of assholes.
...which clearly contravene rule 2 and are in no way contributing to any kind of discussion, how am I to understand that this whole subreddit is not just "divisive politicization" and a platform for the moderators own political beliefs? The only reply to my comment was by Karlou1984 where he wrote "Sincerely, Fuck You!" There was not any nuanced discussion in that thread, only vitriolic and one sided name calling. If I am wrong, then I am happy to admit it but we have to have a dialogue. I was not seeing it, and if I and others like me are banned, than that conversation will never happen and instead r/Canada (and even reddit for that matter) will become an echo chamber, effectively a platform for divisive politicization.
r/Canada Moderator
If you're making any comparisons to the Stasi or totalitarianism with regards to current pandemic restrictions and those who take them seriously then I'm sorry, but you've gone well past the realm of rationality.
People are entitled to criticize politicians, even to degrees you feel are unfair, even if you strongly identify with those politicians. Trudeau receives far worse criticism on this subreddit on a daily basis than anything levied at Hillier without any complaints about it leading to totalitarianism. We won't be silencing criticism of either one of them - and it's odd that if you're concerned about 'totalitarianism' you'd want that anyways.
BeetlejuiceForSenateHere is an advertisement from Ireland, it says, "Is your neighbour wearing a mask? If not, report"
This propaganda from East Germany says at the bottom, "Imperialist spies and agents are dangerous, but they fail again and again because of the vigilance of our workers and the Ministry of State Security".
Here is an article about how East Germans reported each other to authorities.
This is all happening in Canada right now. There are parallels and it's important to recognize the mistakes that led to atrocities, lest we do end up in totalitarian police state, something I would never want to see. It is totally unacceptable and a clear display of the moderators' biases to suggest that I would support such a hell.
Being selective in the application of the rules (where is rule 2???), and banning me based on putting words in my mouth about things I have not said or believe demonstrates to me a clear moderator bias for the purpose of advancing the moderators' own views. It is not unreasonable to expect the moderators of r/Canada to be neutral. By accusing me of notions that come straight from the moderator in question (I never criticized health care workers or compared them to Stasi, denied the reality of the virus or the lives affected by it, declared support for any politician, declared support for totalitarianism), I am left disappointed and suspicious about how the national sub-reddit is being moderated.
r/Canada Moderator
You're seriously comparing people who report violations of provincial laws you seem to disagree with to secret police on the road to committing 'atrocities' in a 'totalitarian police state'? Seriously?
To be blunt - re-evaluate your worldview on this. The pandemic is real. COVID-19 cares nothing for your ideology. Wear a mask.
r/Canada Moderator
You have been temporarily muted from r/canada. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/canada for 3 days.
When all else fails they go through your history and find something they don't like which in their mind completely discredits your argument. It's that or they use all the debating terms like their some sort of renowned intellectual. "That's a slippery slope, false dichotomy, false equivalency, ad-hominem, strawman, red herring!". Mindless pseudo intellectual fluff regurgitated over and over again. Monkey see, monkey do on Reddit.
Full discussion:
You have been permanently banned from participating in r/canada. You can still view and subscribe to r/canada, but you won't be able to post or comment.
Your Comment/Post Text: > This comment thread is a disgusting parade of bootlicking Stasi. We have learned nothing from the 20th century. All nations have the government they deserve, and from what I'm seeing not only on this CCP influenced website but acroas Canada is a hateful, propagandized, authoritarian, hyprocritical people. For all the virtue signalling of moral superiority, you don't understand the irony or the context of your hate for your God given rights, or even the science of this hardly novel disease. What a pathetic excuse for a free and free-thinking people the redditors of Canada are.
BeetlejuiceForSenate A comment calling out dehumanizing and targeting others is worthy of a ban, but the comments advocating for it are not?
I did not single out any group; I am disappointed in all Canadians and those who use this website. Is disappointment and desire for better and more informed discourse a ban-able offence?
r/Canada Moderator COVID-19 is real and it is serious. People who listen to the medical science of this pandemic are not a 'hateful, propagandized, authoritarian, hyprocritical people'
I don't know what agenda you are pushing trying to spread harm to real-world Canadians by demonizing medical science but you may not use this forum to do so. Please-re-evaluate your lack of empathy for the real harm this disease is causing to those infected by it.
BeetlejuiceForSenate You are misrepresenting my comment and making assumptions by deriving meaning beyond what is written. Covid is only a minor part of that comment where I write, "a hardly novel disease". Still novel, but not unprecedented is what that means. That speaks nothing to the reality or seriousness of Sars-CoV-2 (as you claim I dispute) as a virus or disease, but only how a new contagion has changed the mentality of the public despite it being related to past contagions, most obviously Sars-Cov-1. Feel free to browse my profile history, I have never denied the reality of the virus but only the responses to it.
Covid itself is only a minor part of my comment, and I discuss it in no way the above moderator has accused me of. The main points of my comment are how so many, the vast majority of commenters, are actively repeating the mistakes that literally led to the rise of of ideologies that killed millions in the 20th century. Never mind the total disregard for the subreddit's own #2 rule in which many sections are clearly disrespected across the comment thread. I do not scold the entirety of the comment thread and the people of Canada as alleged by the above moderator for "listening to science", but for their quick acceptance of authority (appeal to authority logical fallacy), the media, and government. These powers are not medical science!
My comment is not about biology, but sociology and tribalism. My concern, and my comment, is about how we as a country are falling for the same mistakes that led to the tragedies of the 20th Century, hence the first sentence referring to the Stasi. Sadly, there are parallels to how these regimes rose to what is happening today in Canada.
And however you consider this appeal, please do not ever again presume my or anyone's capacity for empathy. It is entirely empathy for why I write such a comment. I want my country to do better. I don't ever want to live in a totalitarian regime where legitimate criticism is harassed, doxed, or censored. And that is what this comment thread is displaying at large, and that is what I was disgusted by.
BeetlejuiceForSenate I am totally confused. I still cannot understand even after writing an essay what my problem is with the moderation of this sub. I can't see how I've broken any rules.
r/Canada Moderator The medical professionals who are endeavouring to protect Canadians are not the equivalent of East German secret police.
Your so-called 'essay' tries to do nothing more than politicize the advice of Health Canada and provincial health authorities, falsely deflecting it to your chosen enemies of 'the media and government', as if the pandemic is some vast plot to seize liberties rather than a real health crisis.
Your airy ideals in your closing paragraph fall apart in the face of your agenda to portray those taking medical science seriously as 'boot-licking Stasi'. The pandemic is real, and your inflammatory and divisive politicization of apolitical medical guidelines will have the side effect of harming real Canadians. You may not use this platform to do so.
BeetlejuiceForSenate My comment was on the public, on the parallels to the Stasi and how they developed a network of citizen informants that spied on each other. People are calling for the government to use its powers to deplatform an elected representative exercising his constitutional rights (you mention the seizure of liberties. Health crisis or no, this is clearly the case and Randy Hillier and all Canadians have a right and a duty to oppose tyrannical government using emergency powers to justify an unlawful and unprecedented assault on basic civil liberties). We should not have to repeat the mistakes of the 20th century for any disease.
It is not following medical science to call the police on your neighbours for having a family gathering, that is a bootlicking Stasi-like informant. If r/Canada can allow comments such as:
...which clearly contravene rule 2 and are in no way contributing to any kind of discussion, how am I to understand that this whole subreddit is not just "divisive politicization" and a platform for the moderators own political beliefs? The only reply to my comment was by Karlou1984 where he wrote "Sincerely, Fuck You!" There was not any nuanced discussion in that thread, only vitriolic and one sided name calling. If I am wrong, then I am happy to admit it but we have to have a dialogue. I was not seeing it, and if I and others like me are banned, than that conversation will never happen and instead r/Canada (and even reddit for that matter) will become an echo chamber, effectively a platform for divisive politicization.
r/Canada Moderator If you're making any comparisons to the Stasi or totalitarianism with regards to current pandemic restrictions and those who take them seriously then I'm sorry, but you've gone well past the realm of rationality.
People are entitled to criticize politicians, even to degrees you feel are unfair, even if you strongly identify with those politicians. Trudeau receives far worse criticism on this subreddit on a daily basis than anything levied at Hillier without any complaints about it leading to totalitarianism. We won't be silencing criticism of either one of them - and it's odd that if you're concerned about 'totalitarianism' you'd want that anyways.
BeetlejuiceForSenate Here is an advertisement from Ireland, it says, "Is your neighbour wearing a mask? If not, report"
This propaganda from East Germany says at the bottom, "Imperialist spies and agents are dangerous, but they fail again and again because of the vigilance of our workers and the Ministry of State Security".
Here is an article about how East Germans reported each other to authorities.
This is all happening in Canada right now. There are parallels and it's important to recognize the mistakes that led to atrocities, lest we do end up in totalitarian police state, something I would never want to see. It is totally unacceptable and a clear display of the moderators' biases to suggest that I would support such a hell.
Being selective in the application of the rules (where is rule 2???), and banning me based on putting words in my mouth about things I have not said or believe demonstrates to me a clear moderator bias for the purpose of advancing the moderators' own views. It is not unreasonable to expect the moderators of r/Canada to be neutral. By accusing me of notions that come straight from the moderator in question (I never criticized health care workers or compared them to Stasi, denied the reality of the virus or the lives affected by it, declared support for any politician, declared support for totalitarianism), I am left disappointed and suspicious about how the national sub-reddit is being moderated.
r/Canada Moderator You're seriously comparing people who report violations of provincial laws you seem to disagree with to secret police on the road to committing 'atrocities' in a 'totalitarian police state'? Seriously?
To be blunt - re-evaluate your worldview on this. The pandemic is real. COVID-19 cares nothing for your ideology. Wear a mask.
r/Canada Moderator You have been temporarily muted from r/canada. You will not be able to message the moderators of r/canada for 3 days.
You win the logic battle, but they can change the rules and scorecas they see fit. Disgusting application of narrative by that mod.
When all else fails they go through your history and find something they don't like which in their mind completely discredits your argument. It's that or they use all the debating terms like their some sort of renowned intellectual. "That's a slippery slope, false dichotomy, false equivalency, ad-hominem, strawman, red herring!". Mindless pseudo intellectual fluff regurgitated over and over again. Monkey see, monkey do on Reddit.
This is so disheartening. You’re being rational, you provide evidence, you provide counter evidence.
You made a verboten claim, now you are banned. Evidence be damned.