Except whether a group is or isn't a terrorist organization isn't determined by emotion and virtue signaling, nor is it parliament's business. If a group fits a certain criteria, they're defined as a terrorist organization. Period.
Canada's definition of terrorism:
In Canada, section 83.01 of the Criminal Code[1] defines terrorism as an act committed "in whole or in part for a political, religious or ideological purpose, objective or cause" with the intention of intimidating the public "…with regard to its security, including its economic security, or compelling a person, a government or a domestic or an international organization to do or to refrain from doing any act."
You could debatably argue that the Proud Boys satisfy that, since some of them were at the capitol hill riot. But if you did, you'd also have to list BLM and Antifa as terrorist organizations on the same grounds - because they're politically motived, and they riot.
In reality though, no reasonable person would interpret a riot as terrorism. It's never been interpreted it that way before. It's only being called that in this case for blatantly partisan reasons.
It'll be interesting to see if the gov't chooses to label a handful of rioters "terrorists" just because they happen to be white (not white supremacists/nationalists, just white people). It'll show us how deep the partisan corruption runs in our government.
Every single member of the parliament supported the motion.
Yes, but unhinged stupidity is expected of elected officials engaged in partisan politics and electioneering. The permanent public service is supposed to be more sane and grounded.
Oh and the only reason the motion was tabled was to try and bait the Conservatives into voting against it, so the Liberals and their MSM mouthpieces could then campaign on "The CPC voted AGAINST listing a white supremacist terrorist organization as terrorists!".
The CPC responded by employing the same strategy I've been telling you guys about for years - just sidestep the "Muh racism" debate altogether. It's not a fight you can win when the MSM and silicon valley are on the LPC's side.
Seriously, what are the CPC supposed to do here? Defend the proud boys and try to convince the public "They're not really white supremacist's."?
The media have already convinced the public that they are white supremacists. And they're not going to let you sway the public on that, since they MSM control the narrative. It's just not the hill you want to die on. Not when you know it's an unwinnable debate because the playing field is slanted.
Yeah, I agree with your points. But I think that there wasn't even a discussion within the CPC to go against this motion. It feels like that there are people in the CPC which even would write such a motion.
BLM and Antifa as terrorist organizations on the same grounds - because they're politically motived, and they riot
Yes, this is pure virtue signalling. Also, many unions, environmentalist, and aboriginal activists are far more violent than those at the capital hill riot. But violence with the blessing of the left seems immune to prosecution.
If CSIS can label incels, lonely ugly virgins, terrorists, then that just about opens the door to calling anyone terrorist. Basically a terrorist is just anyone society doesn't like. It's become another smear word to demean and humiliate.
I am still trying to Umderstand what really classify them as terrorists, I mean yes they are politically motivated, but all they really do is go to bars and drink beers and once in a while go to rallies, but I don't see them calling for violence. 99% of the violence I see from them were self defense. And I never saw them attack others for different opinions.
Jag-meat is a Sikh supremacist. Nobody seems to care about that...
baffles my mind wasn't there even footage of him with legit terrorist, this country is a dumb shithole.
Noooo /pol/ told me sikhs were supposed to be based, what happened bros? Were we lied to?
Except whether a group is or isn't a terrorist organization isn't determined by emotion and virtue signaling, nor is it parliament's business. If a group fits a certain criteria, they're defined as a terrorist organization. Period.
Canada's definition of terrorism:
You could debatably argue that the Proud Boys satisfy that, since some of them were at the capitol hill riot. But if you did, you'd also have to list BLM and Antifa as terrorist organizations on the same grounds - because they're politically motived, and they riot.
In reality though, no reasonable person would interpret a riot as terrorism. It's never been interpreted it that way before. It's only being called that in this case for blatantly partisan reasons.
It'll be interesting to see if the gov't chooses to label a handful of rioters "terrorists" just because they happen to be white (not white supremacists/nationalists, just white people). It'll show us how deep the partisan corruption runs in our government.
A lot of Conservative people call BLM a terror group because of this reason.
It will? They showed us with this vote. Every single member of the parliament supported the motion.
Yes, but unhinged stupidity is expected of elected officials engaged in partisan politics and electioneering. The permanent public service is supposed to be more sane and grounded.
Oh and the only reason the motion was tabled was to try and bait the Conservatives into voting against it, so the Liberals and their MSM mouthpieces could then campaign on "The CPC voted AGAINST listing a white supremacist terrorist organization as terrorists!".
The CPC responded by employing the same strategy I've been telling you guys about for years - just sidestep the "Muh racism" debate altogether. It's not a fight you can win when the MSM and silicon valley are on the LPC's side.
Seriously, what are the CPC supposed to do here? Defend the proud boys and try to convince the public "They're not really white supremacist's."?
The media have already convinced the public that they are white supremacists. And they're not going to let you sway the public on that, since they MSM control the narrative. It's just not the hill you want to die on. Not when you know it's an unwinnable debate because the playing field is slanted.
Yeah, I agree with your points. But I think that there wasn't even a discussion within the CPC to go against this motion. It feels like that there are people in the CPC which even would write such a motion.
What would be the point? It's going to pass with or without the Conservative's votes.
This was bait, and the CPC didn't take it.
I think the CPC didn't see it as bait. They genuinely supported it.
100% this
Yes, this is pure virtue signalling. Also, many unions, environmentalist, and aboriginal activists are far more violent than those at the capital hill riot. But violence with the blessing of the left seems immune to prosecution.
So free art and poetry classes for PBs now?
Yeah, sure, let's declare the people who aren't burning shit as terrorists.
At this point, the Canadian government, and Parliament, are the terrorists themselves.
If CSIS can label incels, lonely ugly virgins, terrorists, then that just about opens the door to calling anyone terrorist. Basically a terrorist is just anyone society doesn't like. It's become another smear word to demean and humiliate.
First they came for the conservatives, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a conservative.
Then they came for the alt-right and I did not speak out— Because I was not alt-right.
Then they came for the incels, and I did not speak out— Because I was not an incel.
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak for me.
And then I didn't say anything and just went to the gulag with everyone else.
Proudboys should change their name to Antifa, or BILM. Problem solved.
I almost want to be a 'Proud Boy' now that it's soon to be illegal.
ClownWorld is all around us and yet they expect us to deny that ClownWorld even exists. It's fucking incredible, really.
Same. It just makes me want to support the Proud Boys in some way.
I'm sure the Nazi parliament would have unanimously voted to declare the Jews a terrorist organization too, if it came to a vote.
If Gavin comes back to Canada and he’s stopped he can just say: a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian.
It comes down to the LEFT taking away our right to free speech. Period.
I am still trying to Umderstand what really classify them as terrorists, I mean yes they are politically motivated, but all they really do is go to bars and drink beers and once in a while go to rallies, but I don't see them calling for violence. 99% of the violence I see from them were self defense. And I never saw them attack others for different opinions.
Encouraging men to not beat off is terrorism... Got it..
Antifa is not listed:
https://archive.fo/NmdTs
Dude, all Conservatives voted for this motion. Every singly one.
And the 73 million "betrayed" Conservatives in the US will still vote for the Republicans in the next election through a Dominion voting machine.
Looks like membership is going to rise.
There’s legal implications for the terrorist label, so this is worrying. No fly lists for example
Add genocide to the list. Missing indigenous women are being called genocide but it's usually a buck from their own reserve.
Yep, this stuff will go nowhere while politicians pretend to care.
Pals and the buddies