They get amazing pensions, job security and time off with high salary and low workloads. Attracts people with shit degrees since just get in teaching program for 2years and bam a real job. Its similar to avg rcmp officer now that all fitness and height requirements are gone and it caters to women and minorities - a paycheque to people and not a calling or something they care about doing.
It depends. Here in Saskatchewan the salary of a teacher is tied to their number of degrees and to how many years they taught. If you only have one bachelor degree and your teaching license and nothing more you will start at $46k a year. After 12 years of teaching you will max out at $68k. But if you have two bachelors, did some time in graduate school and have finished multiple other seminars you start at like $60k and max out at over $100k after 12 years.
You have to remember, they only work about 8 months of the year with 2 off in summer, almost a month in winter, week for march break, all snow days (3-5 avg), all weekends off, no overtime, and work about 8 until 4 every day (school doesnt technically start til 9 and ends around 3 in most cases plus they get periods off in their schedules) and all with a 1 hour lunch break. Then the unions typically pay for most of your masters and other training if you go for it while working, which most do in a basic masters in teaching type easy/impossible to fail training.
For most of Canada, over $60k is a pretty high salary with no real committments or overtime requirements (most salary have longer hours or "unpaid" overtime type stuff). If you are in vancouver or toronto or something, ya, I guess its not a high salary and probably not a living wage for the rent and standard of living there. For an 8 or 9 month a year job with no overtime and all the ohter perks with huge pension, thats pretty damn high hourly wage though.
As Sask says, there is a lot of unpaid overtime for lesson planning and grading. HOWEVER, much of that diminishes after a couple years, once a teacher has all their old lesson plans, and learns to not spend very much time grading.
I don't know. My sister is a teacher and she's at school from 7 am to 5 pm, 5 days a week. And every day she needs another hour or two to go through homework or exams (or talking with parents). In her first year she wrote down all the work hours. She worked on average over 55 hours a week (including holidays) for $49k before taxes.
Page 11 is the grid for teachers in Calgary. Seems to be different between the public and catholic schools. Also a right pain in the ass having a different agreement for each district.
i had a high school teacher who was based. Explained to us that politicians only exist to get re-elected, explained the principles of 'NIMBY' and how power corrupts. He had a great understanding of history and loved discussing things.
This was in the previous century of course, back when we still had some semblance of Western Civ.
I have a friend who became a teacher a few years ago. He explained it’s basically impossible to teach elementary, everything is set up to treat you like you’re a pedophile.
Yeah I get your drift. There were actually a few really great female teachers, but they were all over 40 back then. The younger ones were the first wave of retardedness that were just getting started.
It was a different world 25 years ago. The seeds were planted even before then, but I didn't realize that it would be my generation that begins the destruction.
Just having a look at the course descriptions for a 2 year teachers certificate. Do they actually learn how to teach? It looks like a lot of kool aid drinking.
In a good program, you are lucky if a quarter are fundamentally useful.
Much of the rest are useful in some sense, as they help you pass whatever tests your state/province has, let you know what to say on camera and write in all the reports, and help you learn buzzwords to say in interviews.
They get amazing pensions, job security and time off with high salary and low workloads. Attracts people with shit degrees since just get in teaching program for 2years and bam a real job. Its similar to avg rcmp officer now that all fitness and height requirements are gone and it caters to women and minorities - a paycheque to people and not a calling or something they care about doing.
It depends. Here in Saskatchewan the salary of a teacher is tied to their number of degrees and to how many years they taught. If you only have one bachelor degree and your teaching license and nothing more you will start at $46k a year. After 12 years of teaching you will max out at $68k. But if you have two bachelors, did some time in graduate school and have finished multiple other seminars you start at like $60k and max out at over $100k after 12 years.
You have to remember, they only work about 8 months of the year with 2 off in summer, almost a month in winter, week for march break, all snow days (3-5 avg), all weekends off, no overtime, and work about 8 until 4 every day (school doesnt technically start til 9 and ends around 3 in most cases plus they get periods off in their schedules) and all with a 1 hour lunch break. Then the unions typically pay for most of your masters and other training if you go for it while working, which most do in a basic masters in teaching type easy/impossible to fail training.
For most of Canada, over $60k is a pretty high salary with no real committments or overtime requirements (most salary have longer hours or "unpaid" overtime type stuff). If you are in vancouver or toronto or something, ya, I guess its not a high salary and probably not a living wage for the rent and standard of living there. For an 8 or 9 month a year job with no overtime and all the ohter perks with huge pension, thats pretty damn high hourly wage though.
As Sask says, there is a lot of unpaid overtime for lesson planning and grading. HOWEVER, much of that diminishes after a couple years, once a teacher has all their old lesson plans, and learns to not spend very much time grading.
I don't know. My sister is a teacher and she's at school from 7 am to 5 pm, 5 days a week. And every day she needs another hour or two to go through homework or exams (or talking with parents). In her first year she wrote down all the work hours. She worked on average over 55 hours a week (including holidays) for $49k before taxes.
https://www.cbe.ab.ca/careers/Documents/Collective-Agreement-CBE-ATA.pdf
Page 11 is the grid for teachers in Calgary. Seems to be different between the public and catholic schools. Also a right pain in the ass having a different agreement for each district.
i had a high school teacher who was based. Explained to us that politicians only exist to get re-elected, explained the principles of 'NIMBY' and how power corrupts. He had a great understanding of history and loved discussing things.
This was in the previous century of course, back when we still had some semblance of Western Civ.
I have a friend who became a teacher a few years ago. He explained it’s basically impossible to teach elementary, everything is set up to treat you like you’re a pedophile.
Yeah I get your drift. There were actually a few really great female teachers, but they were all over 40 back then. The younger ones were the first wave of retardedness that were just getting started.
It was a different world 25 years ago. The seeds were planted even before then, but I didn't realize that it would be my generation that begins the destruction.
Government workers, that's all they are.
Just having a look at the course descriptions for a 2 year teachers certificate. Do they actually learn how to teach? It looks like a lot of kool aid drinking.
https://werklund.ucalgary.ca/
Mid way down the page is links to course descriptions.
In a good program, you are lucky if a quarter are fundamentally useful.
Much of the rest are useful in some sense, as they help you pass whatever tests your state/province has, let you know what to say on camera and write in all the reports, and help you learn buzzwords to say in interviews.