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UrbanZenMonk 9 points ago +9 / -0

Has to happen. Cops are the guards and enforcers of bad government law.

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reddick 5 points ago +5 / -0

Canadians are too pussy to do this

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PostyMcGee 3 points ago +4 / -1

Give'em some of that Spartan hospitality.

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TheSJWHunter 3 points ago +4 / -1

Wrong ancient civilization, but the point still stands nonetheless.

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was looking at some ancient/modern maps but couldn't quite understand where Sparta was and was getting confused. it's all Greek to me! Which seems to be where Sparta was??? and Greek and Roman were always interchangeable for me as an uneducated child and old habits die hard. I just know Italy is shaped like a boot and they need to give the government a boot in the chest.

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brutanana_dilewski 3 points ago +3 / -0

to be fair, the Romans (who came later) took a lot of their culture from Ancient Greece. In turn, the Greeks learned a lot from Ancient Egypt. A surprising amount of Western culture was born in Ancient Egypt.

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deadset 2 points ago +2 / -0

hol up u sayin we wuz kangz n sheeit?

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

I knew about the Roman appropriating the Greeks, especially in regards to mythology. I'd toe the line in regards to Greeks taking much from the Egyptians and who the Egyptians were exactly anyways though. It's an interesting topic but too much PCness as seeped in to get clear answers. The Egyptians were very impressive in their own right, I'll admit it.

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brutanana_dilewski 3 points ago +3 / -0

Those "we wuz kangs" people don't know shit about ancient Egypt. I actually studied it. The actual descendants of the Ancient Egyptians live on in the Coptic people. It is their language that was required for Champollion to decipher the Rosetta Stone. And no I didnt just Google this.

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. I haven't studied the ancient Egyptians much. But racial genetic differences I at least know the basics and have trouble believing they were Black that's for sure. I know they did genetic test on at least one mummy (Tut?). I think they linked it to Europeans, or X% of Europeans had similar ancestry, can't remember. It's an interesting topic. And given what racial politics are it can be hard to get to the truth. Especially when non-Whites are given credit for things they didn't invent all the time. It's something I'd like to see more unbiased research done on. Bet we could learn quite a bit from them, even after all these centuries.

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brutanana_dilewski 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ancient Egypt existed for thousands of years, and at times (especially during the Late Period) they had foreign rulers over them, including the Nubians to the South.

That said, the "race" of the Ancient Egyptians is moot to me. Culturally they shared much with their fellow Mediterranean and Middle Eastern neighbours regarding trade, etc.

Unlike many other ancient civs, we have legible records from various points in time, so we have a very good idea on who lived in Egypt across several millennia.

The 'we wuz kangz' is a lazy concept that basically attempts to assert that because Egypt is on the African continent, it must have been populated by 'blacks'. An argument that terse will only convince the uneducated and ignorant, which unfortunately make up the majority of western society today.

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KlausAnalSchwab 1 point ago +1 / -0

Curious! Whats the major demographic of the Coptic people? Race?

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brutanana_dilewski 1 point ago +1 / -0

Uhh what? Coptic IS the demographic. Think of them like Jews, an ethnoreligious group.

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TheSJWHunter 1 point ago +2 / -1

No worries, I was just teasing. I’ll give you the abridged version. If you look at a map of Greece, the very bottom there’s a chunk called the Peloponnese, home to the infamous war of the same name between the Spartan Kingdom and Athens. Sparta is located in the lower right of that big chunk in a province called Laconia. The Romans you’re thinking of had come from Italy, west of Greece, and pushed east towards Anatolia.

Now, Rome and Greece were an interchangeable entity following the defeat of the Macedonian Kingdom and the eventual capture of Greece/Balkan peninsula by the Romans. Greece and Rome therefore became ‘one’ and even more so when the Western Roman Empire fell in 476 and the Eastern Empire based at Constantinople carried the Roman torch for another thousand years.

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brutanana_dilewski 1 point ago +1 / -0

Justinian took Rome back during the Byzantine years as well, so the Eastern Empire had control of much of the Italian Peninsula even after the fall in 476 for quite some time.

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks, that's very interesting! I've never been good at reading maps, or using google... And was getting lost in weird overlays. I've been meaning to read The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire for years I swear. Nevermind reading all the other Roman and Greek classics. It's even more complex than I thought. The kingdom of Macedonia? I recall a Macedonian trying to explain the difference between them and Greeks, or Romans, or whatever, to me once, and got lost. Seemed very pointed about making the distinction. I'll have to stick to my mythology, stoicism and the odd play until i have time to properly dedicate myself to this complex subject.

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TheSJWHunter 0 points ago +1 / -1

So the confusion around that whole thing stems from the modern day nation of Macedonia calling itself that with no connection to historical Macedonia. The only part of the country that could claim to really be Macedonian is the southern part around Monastir (today Bitola), which was founded by King Philip and remained majority Greek until WW1 when it was captured by Serbia.

The ‘old Macedonia’, which remains today a province of Northern Greece, was a Greek kingdom whereas the country of North Macedonia is of mixed heritage, mostly Slavic, with no connection to the former kingdom (except the part mentioned earlier). That’s why there’s a whole naming dispute between the two ever since that country decided to call itself Macedonia.

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PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lotta layers to it. Thanks for the explanation :)

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TheSJWHunter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Any time, friend.

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Familiarwobble17 0 points ago +1 / -1

That province is actually annexed territory. It's where I am from. Agean Macedonia. Our family and the region speaks and is Macedonian. We were forced to flee due to threats of death and rape from the Greeks. They also changed our last names, city names and forced this via tyranny and people like above who oppressed us. I feel Macedonia still has the right to the name that the people from agean Macedonia are from

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TheSJWHunter 0 points ago +1 / -1

Ya, annexed from the Ottomans. You and I both know that whole Aegean thing was made up by Tito to annex that territory into Yugoslavia. The people who fled were those who didn’t identify with Greece, but usually Yugoslavia or Bulgaria, and bailed out long ago.

Vast majority of those people from Aegean are Greek and identify as such, speak Greek, are Greek Orthodox, and have had Greek names from waaaaaaay before the annexation, like my family.

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HuntStevenson 2 points ago +2 / -0

Funny how the entire world is using the color code system...who came up with it? Who is giving every country the same marching orders?

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