I get being against the vaccines and refusing on principle but I’m also facing the reality that taking it and getting over it is the easiest path. I’m outside of Canada and to ever see my mom again my only real option is to take a vaccine which ever one it might be and suck it up. The risks are low enough that it’s less dangerous than most things I don’t think twice about doing anyway like riding my motorcycle.
Do they work? Probably but not at any rate to be significant
Will they kill me or fuck me up? Possibly but not as bad as going on an adventure while traveling in most tropical places.
If I was in your place I’d probably just suck it up and roll up my sleeves and say needs must.
So this is one of those things people never really think about but it falls into that statistically more significant than you'd think kind of things. If we ignore people who through drunken/drugged stupidity end up dead for fucking the wrong hooker and getting killed for it and focus on just bad drivers, horrible roads, allergic reactions to insects and plants you'd never know you were allergic to or water born diseases going to tropical places is actually more dangerous than you would think.
Add in people doing more adventurous things than they would normally do at home on equipment built and run by people who have simply no concept of safety and you have an amazing amount of serious incidents each year.
I see people who come here (I spend most of my year in South east Asia) all the time and rent scooters. The roads are dreadful and there aren't laws in the same way we would expect in Canada. People don't signal lane changes or check blind spots, roads don't have shoulders or railings around turns on the sides of cliffs. So you take someone who likely last road a dirt bike on their uncles farm 10 years ago driving a scooter half drunk wearing flip flops at night with no road lights and a drunk girlfriend on the back and.... I think you get the picture.
For some actual Canadian numbers the best I could find was this from 1996 - 2004. Effectively 2400 people over 8 years or 300 per year. Ignoring the 2/3rds that are natural deaths (old people do die on vacation) and focusing instead on the 100. Who died from accident or murder ... So we can do the per capita in 2 ways. Brute force is we take the 38,000,000 people and knock 2 zeros off and you have a 1:380 000 chance of death from unnatural causes while traveling abroad per year. But this is actually a bit of an under estimate, so what we really want is the number who traveled outside of Canada each year which unfortunately isn't easy to find...
So lets call it an average of %50 of Canadians over 5 years but lets make the assumption that this is likely high as many won't ravel every year and kick it down to like %40 or give or take 15,000,000. This brings our per capita per year down around 1:150 000 or about the same as our domestic murder rate.
You have about the same chance of being murdered in Canada as being killed in a foreign country while on vacation.
Current wild guess on the AZ vaccine but blood clots in the 1:250 000 range or about %40 lower than ending up dead on a vacation.
Is it really worth it?
I get being against the vaccines and refusing on principle but I’m also facing the reality that taking it and getting over it is the easiest path. I’m outside of Canada and to ever see my mom again my only real option is to take a vaccine which ever one it might be and suck it up. The risks are low enough that it’s less dangerous than most things I don’t think twice about doing anyway like riding my motorcycle.
Do they work? Probably but not at any rate to be significant
Will they kill me or fuck me up? Possibly but not as bad as going on an adventure while traveling in most tropical places.
If I was in your place I’d probably just suck it up and roll up my sleeves and say needs must.
https://scholarworks.bgsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1053&context=hmsls_mastersprojects
https://time.com/4250811/travel-safety/
https://www.cbc.ca/news/deaths-of-quebec-women-in-thailand-may-have-been-caused-by-pesticide-1.2569434#:~:text=A%20highly%20toxic%20pesticide%20used%20to%20control%20bedbugs%20in%20some,estate%20and%20Radio%2DCanada's%20Enquete.
So this is one of those things people never really think about but it falls into that statistically more significant than you'd think kind of things. If we ignore people who through drunken/drugged stupidity end up dead for fucking the wrong hooker and getting killed for it and focus on just bad drivers, horrible roads, allergic reactions to insects and plants you'd never know you were allergic to or water born diseases going to tropical places is actually more dangerous than you would think.
https://www.outsideonline.com/2159481/just-how-dangerous-are-ziplines
Add in people doing more adventurous things than they would normally do at home on equipment built and run by people who have simply no concept of safety and you have an amazing amount of serious incidents each year.
I see people who come here (I spend most of my year in South east Asia) all the time and rent scooters. The roads are dreadful and there aren't laws in the same way we would expect in Canada. People don't signal lane changes or check blind spots, roads don't have shoulders or railings around turns on the sides of cliffs. So you take someone who likely last road a dirt bike on their uncles farm 10 years ago driving a scooter half drunk wearing flip flops at night with no road lights and a drunk girlfriend on the back and.... I think you get the picture.
https://academic.oup.com/jtm/article-pdf/14/2/77/5080159/jtm14-0077.pdf
For some actual Canadian numbers the best I could find was this from 1996 - 2004. Effectively 2400 people over 8 years or 300 per year. Ignoring the 2/3rds that are natural deaths (old people do die on vacation) and focusing instead on the 100. Who died from accident or murder ... So we can do the per capita in 2 ways. Brute force is we take the 38,000,000 people and knock 2 zeros off and you have a 1:380 000 chance of death from unnatural causes while traveling abroad per year. But this is actually a bit of an under estimate, so what we really want is the number who traveled outside of Canada each year which unfortunately isn't easy to find...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/538674/canadians-travel-outside-north-america-income/
So lets call it an average of %50 of Canadians over 5 years but lets make the assumption that this is likely high as many won't ravel every year and kick it down to like %40 or give or take 15,000,000. This brings our per capita per year down around 1:150 000 or about the same as our domestic murder rate.
You have about the same chance of being murdered in Canada as being killed in a foreign country while on vacation.
Current wild guess on the AZ vaccine but blood clots in the 1:250 000 range or about %40 lower than ending up dead on a vacation.