If you are planning to vote a party other than the PPC in the next federal election I would like to hear your views and your current perception on The People's Party. Thanks in advance.
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It appears my account is too new to reply to your comments? I wrote replies to almost all of you and they haven't shown up in my feed. Very frustrating!
Come hangout with us on freecanada.win our temporary spot until we get properly added to the .win network. If you stay here Ham will ban you.
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I'm still undecided on the People's Party. I normally vote Christian Heritage but this time around they're not running a candidate in my riding. I like a lot of their other policies but Bernier has said abortion isn't on the PPC platform. I can't in good conscience vote for someone who is okay with the status quo of taxpayer-funded abortions for any reason or no reason at all, at any point up to birth. If a party is okay with that, in my opinion they don't have the moral authority to lead.
I may end up having to officially refuse or spoil my ballot as a result.
Make the choice “Not to Vote”. Get your ballot, then return it unopened to be counted as a non-vote. You can say why, or not, as you choose. This sends a better message than a spoiled ballot. A spoiled one means a mistake or illiteracy. Just a thought. This was done before Winn’s second election win ? and there were so many people that chose Not to Vote in this manner that there was almost the equivalent of a minority, so I was told. However, I was only told that, not shown numbers. The MSM reported some bull crap about a “significant number of irresponsible voters” or some such nonsense.
Alternate option: take the ballot from the elections worker, stick it in your mouth, chew it, swallow, and walk out.
That works, too. ?
My advice is not to let the 'perfect' be the enemy of the good. Before issues like abortion can even be discussed again in Parliament, we need a party that respects freedom of speech and debate. The only federal choice for that is PPC.
If you truly want to end abortion one day, you can at least be certain that Max will keep an open mind and listen.
I'm not looking for perfect. I'm looking for people who have a basic respect for human life. If a politician can't do that I couldn't care less what any of his other policies are.
Unfortunately we're living in a country where virtually no politician can do even that.
Spoiling your vote to maintain some sense of personal integrity won't help you achieve your goal. A spoiled vote is basically a vote for the globalists so in that sense you are actually voting to keep pro-choice parties in power. At least the PPC allows for pro life positions.
Personal integrity IS my goal.
So does the Conservative party. But if they don't back it up in their platform, that's meaningless.
Utopia is not for this world. No party can get elected on a pro-life platform. However, the longer you wait and do nothing, the worse your choices become.
Like I said, don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
Maybe you should run as a Christian heritage candidate, or maybe work with others to find a candidate to run. Even failure will be great experience. There may be more like-minded people in your community than you think.
I'd be terrible in politics. I can't control my mouth.
Do you know who the representative is in Ontario’s Etobicoke-Lakeshore?
I was on the fence between Cons and PPC last election, and I definitely voted to try to keep Trudeau out of majority territory, but O'toole is one spineless, flip floppy step too far left for me even if he's trying to appeal to a bigger demographic. What's the point if you ditch your core voter base. Honestly i think hot topic issues are important to tackle ie. immigration, abortion etc. but being in my early 30s, if a decent platform relating to changes in housing (somewhat tied to immigration and citizenship) and job creation especially the trade sector were to be there i'd have no issue "throwing away" my vote to the PPC.
Good luck, but have a backup job in mind.
Your party has an awful public image and I doubt it can ever be salvaged.
And as much as your party likes to try and blame the CPC or Warren Kinsella for fraudulently manufacturing this image, the reality is that your own supporters created that image and continue to perpetuate it every day.
Take this forum for example. The user base here is made up mainly by PPCers..
Well, look at the agree/disagree votes on these comments:
https://archive.is/HBFEq#selection-2547.0-2559.1
https://archive.is/qq6ev#selection-1639.0-1647.1
https://archive.is/ZfdPb#selection-1273.1-1299.1
That's your party-mates upvoting that shit.
Even better: Here's your party-mates upvoting open promotion of nazism:
https://archive.is/7vj2Y#selection-2559.0-2559.2
And they throw temper tantrums when you tell them racism isn't permitted here.
https://omegacanada.win/p/12iNQ96HOy/reminder-no-racism/c/
This is your base when the mask is off and they feel they have some anonymity. This is why your public image is what it is.
Now, you can go ahead make up whatever excuses or rationalizations you want to avoid this ugly truth about your base, but you're only kidding yourself.
My goodness, this is a new low. Screen capping past posts from essentially anonymous users claiming they are "Our base" when a lot of them are just trolling Ham hard cause it seems to be a regular, easy to do pastime here. Most reasonable people know that generalizations suck for everyone, Get out more.
LOL at least have the courage of your convictions and fucking own it.
We're talking about the party that the CNP - a literal neo-nazi party - offered to to collaborate with. Were they just "trolling ham" too?
You are correct in owning what you believe in, which seems to be a hard thing to do for some, and screen capping does hold people, albeit anonymous ones accountable to a degree. But generalizations about why people vote for who they vote for isn't exactly productive. Im thinking that most political parties have affiliations and support from sources that some voters may have opinions or issues with, whether literal neo-nazi groups or not. From my understanding Bernier turned the CNP down after they came to him for support. I come here for contrast to the mainstream media, try to not get caught up in the "virtual" world drama because we both know people behind screens say a lot, but rarely act. I only commented because Ive seen enough posts in regards to OC/Ham "issues" to conclude that people are egging you on with edgy posts that are not worth the attention they are getting, and you responding as such is just encouraging more. I could be way off, but I doubt OC will contribute to anything more to Canadian opinions than a shitposting blog with tidbits of decent alternative media and the odd thought provoking discussion. Just my worthless 2 cents. Have a nice long weekend Ham.
Yes he did. But what does it say about the kinds of people the PPC attracts when literal neo-nazi parties offer to collaborate with them?
You need to face the fact that all of the white nationalists have concentrated in your tiny party (as well as the Qanon people and other crazies). Or better yet, just walk away. Because the rest of the country knows this about your party, while you're in complete denial.
The user base here is made up mainly of PPCers.
And that same userbase consistently and overwhelmingly upvotes racism and open promotion of nazism.
https://archive.is/HBFEq#selection-2547.0-2559.1
https://archive.is/qq6ev#selection-1639.0-1647.1
https://archive.is/ZfdPb#selection-1273.1-1299.1
https://archive.is/7vj2Y#selection-2559.0-2559.2
So what exactly am I supposed to conclude from that data? Especially when it dovetails perfectly with the earlier point about the PPC appealing to white nationalists? At a certain point you have to stop ignoring what's clearly right in front of you and face reality.
If you've got a problem with people like me perceiving a link between the PPC and racism, maybe you should spend a little more time confronting the people promoting racism in your party's name and a little less time attacking the guy who points it out. Or again, just walk away. Because you're never going to salvage that party's image, especially if you're not willing to acknowledge much less confront your party's racism problem. I mean, your party-mates are in here conducting themselves in a manner that paints them as almost homogeneously racist, and it's me you're mad at? Get real.