Spanish Flu wiped-out ENTIRE Haida settlements on the western coast of British Columbia
While it's true that the Spanish Flu had a bigger impact on the First Nations, I want to see prove that it wiped out "entie Haida settlements". According to the provincial government of BC around 800 to 1,200 First Nation members died during the Spanish Flu.
People were too sick or afraid to go out and there were quarantines.
And after the quarantine? Why didn't the agent for the reserve write the provincial or federal government about it?
All I claimed was that moving 200 bodies during a pandemic over a 100 years ago with no cars, no trucks, through the snow could not have happened in the time you're citing you could RUN the distance today.
????? What?
The school is a kilometer away from the city. A KILOMETER. That is not a big distance. Someone can walk backwards a kilometer within 15 minutes.
and has more proof than the cause of death and timeline than YOU have proposed; which was: .... NOTHING.
I already "proposed" causes and timelines of death. While you are arguing that these kids died all at once, I already stated that these kids were buried over decades.
A) 200+ kids buried over decades and nobody remembers B) 200+ First Nations malnourished kids died of Spanish Flu in 3 - 7 days.
Scenario A is more likely. And here is the proof. When I looked up the Spanish Flu deaths on First Nation reserves in BC you can find numbers between 800 and 1,200. I asked myself, surely 200 dead First Nation kids would have been quite the story. The indian agent would have written the provincial government about it. There should be letters. If not in the archives of the school, they should in the archives of the provincial government. And there are letters from the residential school in Kamloops to the provincial and federal government.
A request for money for the 5 extra students which were admitted to the school, because their parents died to the Flu. They also state how many children are currently at the school. 60 children are currently at the school.
As you can see, the school wasn't home to 200 students during the Spanish Flu epidemic. It house 60 to 80 students at that time. Only after the pandemic the school was expanded to about 150 students by 1925, 275 students by 1930. It peaked at over 500 students in the 1950.
200 kids couldn't have died during the Spanish Flu at the school, because the school didn't even have that many students. There is even a letter from a nun to the federal government where she "thanks the lord for the remedies which helped the kids during the epidemic". Speak, these kids at the school didn't die from the Spanish Flu.
There was no former hospital. The school had only 60 students during the Spanish Flu pandemic. You two scenarios don't have any merit.
They could not speak a common language to discover names.
Kids got new names in residential schools as a way to integrate them in European society. Look up the official records of deaths at residential schools. They all have European sounding names.
And we all know now that the best way to keep them down was to pay them to live on Reserves to keep the dirty injuns in their place of their own free will.
They weren't paid. They were forced to live on these reserves.
Maybe. But if so, then what? Speculate about WHY and WHEN the died?
You are speculating. From "former hospitals" to "200 kids dead in 3 days because of the Spanish Flu". Not a single theory of yours holds ground. All you have is hot air. You provided absolutely no proof for any of your claims.
I want those sites dug. It is the only way to discover the truth.
The RCMP is already investigating the site. Just be aware, the average time till a human bones decompose to dust is about 80 years.
Also, you don't want the truth. If you wanted the truth you wouldn't make up impossible stories.
"After skeletonization, if scavenging animals do not destroy or remove the bones, acids in many fertile soils take about 20 years to completely dissolve the skeleton of mid- to large-size mammals, such as humans, leaving no trace of the organism."
With a modern coffin which protects the dead body the time can be prolonged to about 80 years. But since these kids at the residential school were only buried in cheap wooden boxes ...
If they died more than 50 or 60 years ago, there will be nothing left of them anymore.
Naia's bones are intact after an estimated 12,000 years.
Because Naia died in a cave. In dry conditions skeletons can fossilize.
"Alternately, especially in very fine, dry, salty, anoxic, or mildly alkaline soils, bones may undergo fossilization, converting into minerals that may persist indefinitely."
"My" theory/hypothesis has ...
Your theory is already impossible by the simple fact that there weren't even 200 kids at the school at the time. Only 60 to 70.
No obvious specific cause.
I stated multiple causes and they are all verifiable by people who went to such schools.
Autopsy of any remains in those graves would get us closer to the truth.
The chance there are still remains of these kids is pretty much zero.
You just implied that there are NO REMAINS OF KIDS BURIED ON THE SITE and it was impossible for any to have been detected
Seems like you can't read. I said that the chance of finding remains is pretty much zero.
Also, the faults created by the coffins have a unique signature on the radar. These faults don't "decay", unless the earth is moved. This is also how they found these unmarked graves. By scanning the underground for faults created by coffins.
Personally, I think First Nations people should be glad that Christians were the ones who conquered the lands they once roamed on freely and tried to assimilate them ...
Your comment just shows that you don't want to know the truth. You make up impossible scenarios and when they are disproven you shift to "the natives should be happy we abused them and someone other". And now you're talking about Trudope training Chinese soldiers, which has nothing to do with the topic.
Even if they found the skeletons of the 215 children and provided 100% proof that they died through the abuse of the Catholic Church and Canadian government, you would just close your eyes and argue that all of it is made up. Because going against it is all you have.
While it's true that the Spanish Flu had a bigger impact on the First Nations, I want to see prove that it wiped out "entie Haida settlements". According to the provincial government of BC around 800 to 1,200 First Nation members died during the Spanish Flu.
And after the quarantine? Why didn't the agent for the reserve write the provincial or federal government about it?
????? What?
The school is a kilometer away from the city. A KILOMETER. That is not a big distance. Someone can walk backwards a kilometer within 15 minutes.
I already "proposed" causes and timelines of death. While you are arguing that these kids died all at once, I already stated that these kids were buried over decades.
Scenario A is more likely. And here is the proof. When I looked up the Spanish Flu deaths on First Nation reserves in BC you can find numbers between 800 and 1,200. I asked myself, surely 200 dead First Nation kids would have been quite the story. The indian agent would have written the provincial government about it. There should be letters. If not in the archives of the school, they should in the archives of the provincial government. And there are letters from the residential school in Kamloops to the provincial and federal government.
From May 1921:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00573.jpg
A request for money for the 5 extra students which were admitted to the school, because their parents died to the Flu. They also state how many children are currently at the school. 60 children are currently at the school.
Next letter is from October 1921:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00593.jpg
Students at the school: 68
Letter from the principal of the school, October 1922:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00653.jpg
The principal writes the Super Intendant about plans to expand the school. And that a school with enough place for less than 250 would be a mistake.
Letter from November 3rd 1922:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00652.jpg
The Deputy Super Intendant of BC thanks the principal for the numbers.
Letter from December 1925:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00613.jpg
The school now houses over 135 students. The government gives the OK to expand it to 150.
Letter from May 1926:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00661.jpg
A third wing is being built to accomodate even more students.
Letter from March 1930:
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00706.jpg
The school is now home to 275 students.
As you can see, the school wasn't home to 200 students during the Spanish Flu epidemic. It house 60 to 80 students at that time. Only after the pandemic the school was expanded to about 150 students by 1925, 275 students by 1930. It peaked at over 500 students in the 1950.
200 kids couldn't have died during the Spanish Flu at the school, because the school didn't even have that many students. There is even a letter from a nun to the federal government where she "thanks the lord for the remedies which helped the kids during the epidemic". Speak, these kids at the school didn't die from the Spanish Flu.
https://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/microform/data2/dm09/d09/006003/c-8770/jpg/c-8770-00570.jpg
There was no former hospital. The school had only 60 students during the Spanish Flu pandemic. You two scenarios don't have any merit.
Kids got new names in residential schools as a way to integrate them in European society. Look up the official records of deaths at residential schools. They all have European sounding names.
They weren't paid. They were forced to live on these reserves.
You are speculating. From "former hospitals" to "200 kids dead in 3 days because of the Spanish Flu". Not a single theory of yours holds ground. All you have is hot air. You provided absolutely no proof for any of your claims.
The RCMP is already investigating the site. Just be aware, the average time till a human bones decompose to dust is about 80 years.
Also, you don't want the truth. If you wanted the truth you wouldn't make up impossible stories.
It's not.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletonization
"After skeletonization, if scavenging animals do not destroy or remove the bones, acids in many fertile soils take about 20 years to completely dissolve the skeleton of mid- to large-size mammals, such as humans, leaving no trace of the organism."
With a modern coffin which protects the dead body the time can be prolonged to about 80 years. But since these kids at the residential school were only buried in cheap wooden boxes ...
If they died more than 50 or 60 years ago, there will be nothing left of them anymore.
Because Naia died in a cave. In dry conditions skeletons can fossilize.
"Alternately, especially in very fine, dry, salty, anoxic, or mildly alkaline soils, bones may undergo fossilization, converting into minerals that may persist indefinitely."
Your theory is already impossible by the simple fact that there weren't even 200 kids at the school at the time. Only 60 to 70.
I stated multiple causes and they are all verifiable by people who went to such schools.
The chance there are still remains of these kids is pretty much zero.
Seems like you can't read. I said that the chance of finding remains is pretty much zero.
Also, the faults created by the coffins have a unique signature on the radar. These faults don't "decay", unless the earth is moved. This is also how they found these unmarked graves. By scanning the underground for faults created by coffins.
Your comment just shows that you don't want to know the truth. You make up impossible scenarios and when they are disproven you shift to "the natives should be happy we abused them and someone other". And now you're talking about Trudope training Chinese soldiers, which has nothing to do with the topic.
Even if they found the skeletons of the 215 children and provided 100% proof that they died through the abuse of the Catholic Church and Canadian government, you would just close your eyes and argue that all of it is made up. Because going against it is all you have.