You should eat this piece of cake. You don't want it? I assure you it's very good and very safe to eat. Still don't want it? I guess I'm going to have to lock the door. Nobody is allowed to leave the room until you eat this piece of cake. Still don't want it? Everybody is getting pretty mad. I bet you probably want to leave. It's okay. I just need you to eat this piece of cake. Plenty of other people have eaten it. And they're fine. You absolutely don't have to eat it. But nobody is allowed to move or speak or gather together or make eye contact or especially leave until you eat this piece of cake. Still don't want it? I already ate a piece of cake myself before you got here. It was delicious I assure you. And also very safe despite what anybody tries to tell you. Only positive comments about the cake will be allowed. Still don't want it? I have a gun. I'm not threatening you in any way. It's just that everybody is scared and angry and tired. They all want to go home. I want to go home. You want to go home. And we can. But you have to eat the piece of cake before we do.

Why are you so hesitant? It's just a little piece of cake.

I don't know what to do.

Don't get it.

Forge your vaccine ID.

You dont know what to do? You sound weak. Dont get the experimental "vaccine".

"I don't discuss it. It's a private matter." Done.

They will say everyone got it on target and reopen either way is my prediction. They'll say we beat covid thanks to a great combined effort, pat themselves on the back, then attempt to call an election having saved your life with their great policy making and competence.

Don’t do anything, there are more than enough willing to get it. Just lay low and wait it out.

Ok, I think this whole vaccine debate started on common sense grounds - i.e. people should never be forced by the state to get a vaccine if they don't want to but that's somehow mutated into people thinking they need to object to the vaccine itself, refuse to get it on principle, yell at people who do choose to get it etc etc.

The argument was never about whether people should get the vaccine, it was about the potential of the state committing an overreach if/when they tried to comel people to get it. THAT is what we were objecting to. Don't be one of these people who thinks that means you have to choose not to get the vaccine in order to maintain your ideological purity. That was never what the debate was about (until the crazies moved in that is). That's basically batshit antivaxxer territory.

You are not committing an ideological betrayal by getting the vax. Anyone who says you are is fucking crazy. If you want to get the vaccine, go ahead. It's fine (from a principle standpoint) as long as you're not being forced by the gov't.

Now that's the principle angle. As for the personal health/safety angle, you have to judge for yourself if you think it's safe to get the vaccine. Apprehension was well founded when these vaccines were first being rolled out, but now that millions have had it for in some cases months, and no major, widespread side effects have manifested, you've got better info to base your decision on.

And whatever you choose, you don't need to tell us or anyone else. You choosing whether or not to get the vax is a personal health and safety issue, not an internet ideology issue. You should care exactly zero about what anyone on the internet has to say about you getting the vax.

More than anything though, don't solicit medical advice from a place like this. Not only are there no doctors here, but people in forums like this will give you the answer that best serves their own ideological beliefs, not the answer that best serves your health and safety interests.