I thought it was slaughtering people who didn't think like you that you were upset about, I didn't realize it's OK if it's just between Christian sects.
I see what you did there. I said "murdering people for their beliefs" when I should have specified "religious beliefs", and you tried to turn it to civilian crimes. The discussion was about Christians murdering other Christians during the various Inquisitions and how you seem to think that was better than Muslims murdering Christians. I disagree.
"Christians" didn't do that. NAZI soldiers did that...
First, Christians have been putting Jews in ghettos and murdering them for hundreds of years. Look up "pogrom". Second, Germany in 1939 was overwhelmingly Christian, and so were the Nazi soldiers. Kristallnacht soldiers were joined by thousands of civilians. The Times of London, 11 November 1938: "No foreign propagandist bent upon blackening Germany before the world could outdo the tale of burnings and beatings, of blackguardly assaults on defenceless and innocent people, which disgraced that country yesterday." It wasn't just Nazis. Most of the 3 million Nazi Party members "still paid the Church taxes" and considered themselves Christians. (John S. Conway; The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945; Regent College Publishing; p. 233)
Even in the face of evidence of Nazi atrocities against Catholic priests and lay people in Poland, which were broadcast on Vatican Radio, German Catholic religious leaders continued to express their support for the Nazi war effort. They urged their Catholic followers to "fulfill their duty to the Fuhrer" (John S. Conway; The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945; Regent College Publishing; p. 234)
The expulsion of minorities is as old as war. The Jews are just one group of many who have been kicked around. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer) The thing that is different about them is that they got blamed for the death of Jesus even though it was the Romans who killed him, and everywhere they go there are Christians who hate them for that despite the fact that Jesus had to "die for our sins" and return from the dead in order for the Christian story to work.
The one thing OLDE Christians and Muslims agree on is that LOANS AT INTEREST are wrong, evil and destructive.
As you say: Christians do it too. Are you just as mad at them?
Yes but their are false christs, false Christians, false prophets etc. There are many warnings of this in the Bible.
A verse for you "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven"
Mathew 7:21
And it goes on further. I would argue that "Christians" who spread the gospel by the sword, murder people who don't join their church, and create traditions that aren't the will of the Father fit into the category of false Christians.
I thought it was slaughtering people who didn't think like you that you were upset about, I didn't realize it's OK if it's just between Christian sects.
Or is that not what you're saying?
The idea that murdering people for their beliefs is less of an issue in some cases is new to me.
Christians herding Jewwish shopkeepers, women, and children.into ghettos and then murdering them?
I see what you did there. I said "murdering people for their beliefs" when I should have specified "religious beliefs", and you tried to turn it to civilian crimes. The discussion was about Christians murdering other Christians during the various Inquisitions and how you seem to think that was better than Muslims murdering Christians. I disagree.
First, Christians have been putting Jews in ghettos and murdering them for hundreds of years. Look up "pogrom". Second, Germany in 1939 was overwhelmingly Christian, and so were the Nazi soldiers. Kristallnacht soldiers were joined by thousands of civilians. The Times of London, 11 November 1938: "No foreign propagandist bent upon blackening Germany before the world could outdo the tale of burnings and beatings, of blackguardly assaults on defenceless and innocent people, which disgraced that country yesterday." It wasn't just Nazis. Most of the 3 million Nazi Party members "still paid the Church taxes" and considered themselves Christians. (John S. Conway; The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945; Regent College Publishing; p. 233)
Even in the face of evidence of Nazi atrocities against Catholic priests and lay people in Poland, which were broadcast on Vatican Radio, German Catholic religious leaders continued to express their support for the Nazi war effort. They urged their Catholic followers to "fulfill their duty to the Fuhrer" (John S. Conway; The Nazi Persecution of the Churches, 1933-1945; Regent College Publishing; p. 234)
The expulsion of minorities is as old as war. The Jews are just one group of many who have been kicked around. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer) The thing that is different about them is that they got blamed for the death of Jesus even though it was the Romans who killed him, and everywhere they go there are Christians who hate them for that despite the fact that Jesus had to "die for our sins" and return from the dead in order for the Christian story to work.
As you say: Christians do it too. Are you just as mad at them?
Not all people who call themselves christian are christian.
Who gets to decide that some christians are not christian?
The Bible.
They all have a Bible in their hand.
Anyone who claims Jesus is divine is a christian. A lot of them don't act like it.
Yes but their are false christs, false Christians, false prophets etc. There are many warnings of this in the Bible.
A verse for you "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of my Father which is in heaven" Mathew 7:21
And it goes on further. I would argue that "Christians" who spread the gospel by the sword, murder people who don't join their church, and create traditions that aren't the will of the Father fit into the category of false Christians.
It's nice to run into a Christian who is content to let other people live their lives their own way, one who follows the New Testament teachings:
Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven
Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.