1 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone--
2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time.
7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.
9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
15 But women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
Hmmm. All those prohibitions for women and so few for men.
No reasonable person needs to claim or argue whether or not Islam suppresses women. There is enough proof for that not to be in contention.
For anyone following this discussion here's an article to read about the rights of women in Islam. It notes that "Many of these oppressive practices, however, do not come from Islam itself, but are part of local cultural traditions. (To think about the difference between religion and culture, ask yourself if the high rate of domestic violence in the United States is related to Christianity, the predominant religion.)" (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnections/mideast/questions/women/)
Jack's character is explaining exactly what I told you; women are wired differently (than men) and they can't be faulted for it.
That's a pretty sweeping statement (women don't have reason and accountability) considering the number of women heads of state, CEOs, Nobel Prize winners, doctors, surgeons, lawyers. engineers, etc.
If you are suggesting that women's brains/minds/thinking patterns are different than that of men, then you're arguing that men who believe they are women are just crazy. A dangerous position during Pride Month.
Imagine; a Muslim or Islamic sympathist (you're one of the two) in Canada coming out and saying that the Transgender movement is a farce and is unfounded and is "wrong". HAHAHAHA
Steady there big fella. Try to keep your fantasies at arms length. The voices in your head may not be your friends.
What version are you reading. I don't see that.
1 Timothy 2
1 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone--
2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all men--the testimony given in its proper time.
7 And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
8 I want men everywhere to lift up holy hands in prayer, without anger or disputing.
9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
15 But women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
You said an awful lot there but I don't see any of it in Timothy. Where are you getting that argument from?
That's a strange clip to use to support your claim that Islam oppresses women. Jack Nicholson seems pretty disrespectful in it.
Hmmm. All those prohibitions for women and so few for men.
For anyone following this discussion here's an article to read about the rights of women in Islam. It notes that "Many of these oppressive practices, however, do not come from Islam itself, but are part of local cultural traditions. (To think about the difference between religion and culture, ask yourself if the high rate of domestic violence in the United States is related to Christianity, the predominant religion.)" (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/globalconnections/mideast/questions/women/)
That's a pretty sweeping statement (women don't have reason and accountability) considering the number of women heads of state, CEOs, Nobel Prize winners, doctors, surgeons, lawyers. engineers, etc.
Steady there big fella. Try to keep your fantasies at arms length. The voices in your head may not be your friends.