Ok, so at what vaccination rate can we expect start to seeing returns in the overall infection and death rates? 71% vaccination provided no reductions. Why should I hold out any hope that 81% or 91% will be any different?
You know what's going to happen, right? They're going to get up above 90% vaccination rates, they won't make a dent in the pandemic, and then they'll start blaming everyone who doesn't have the third shot, then the fourth shot then the fifth shot etc. And it'll just continue like that until someone puts a stop to it. But by then we'll have lost all our freedoms, so putting a stop to it may not even be in the cards at that point.
Ok, so at what vaccination rate can we expect start to seeing returns in the overall infection and death rates?
Depends on how contagious the disease is. Look at measles. In California the vaccination rate against measles dropped from over 96% to just 92%, which was enough to have multiple outbreaks. The governor then removed exemptions for it.
They're going to get up above 90% vaccination rates
We are already up there for multiple other vaccines. It would have been an easy goal, if politicians (left and right) wouldn't have made it about politics. Now we have one sport team against the other. These vaccines weren't developed by some Liberal illuminati. The first countries to get these vaccines were the US under Trump and Israel under Netanyahu. Their admins granted the emergency approvals.
Trudeau advocates for vaccines, O'Toole advocates for vaccines. Almost any province is led by a Conservative Premier and all of them implemented mandates. DeSantis urges everyone to get vaccinated and even Trump went on stage during CPAC and told the crowd that everybody should get the jab and that it's totally unpainful.
But by then we'll have lost all our freedoms, so putting a stop to it may not even be in the cards at that point.
Do children lose all their freedoms because they have to get multiple vaccines before they can go to school like in Ontario? Now we have Covid which is more deadly to older people and everyone freaks out when we impose the same mandates on them as we do on our children.
Today the problem is that everything has to be political. You can provide exemptions for the Covid vaccine for religious or medial reasons, but I would bet a lot of money on it that the majority of people who would claim a religious exemption for the Covid vaccine wouldn't know the difference between the bible and the LotR books and they would have absolutely no issues with vaccinating their family against measles or other diseases. It's not about religion or medical reasons. It's about that I think that I know it better and therefore I'm always right and fuck the other team. There has to be always an enemy. So people look at a graph, draw some lines and make their own conclusions. We can wait till December and see if the death rate will be the same or not. But if it will be lower (considerable lower), you won't make a post about how the vaccines are saving lives and then argue with the anti-vaxx crowd as you do with people here in this thread.
Then explain why the unvaccinated are dying at a far higher rate than the vaccinated, if the vaccine is not effective. Simple as that.
According to who? Joe Biden?
Everything that goes against my narrative is a lie. Who is now a grasping at straws?
Even DeSantis acknowledged that unvaccinated people are dying at a far higher rate and urged the people of Florida to get vaccinated.
Ok, so at what vaccination rate can we expect start to seeing returns in the overall infection and death rates? 71% vaccination provided no reductions. Why should I hold out any hope that 81% or 91% will be any different?
You know what's going to happen, right? They're going to get up above 90% vaccination rates, they won't make a dent in the pandemic, and then they'll start blaming everyone who doesn't have the third shot, then the fourth shot then the fifth shot etc. And it'll just continue like that until someone puts a stop to it. But by then we'll have lost all our freedoms, so putting a stop to it may not even be in the cards at that point.
Depends on how contagious the disease is. Look at measles. In California the vaccination rate against measles dropped from over 96% to just 92%, which was enough to have multiple outbreaks. The governor then removed exemptions for it.
https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-measles-us-california-outbreak-vaccine-new-york-disneyland/
We are already up there for multiple other vaccines. It would have been an easy goal, if politicians (left and right) wouldn't have made it about politics. Now we have one sport team against the other. These vaccines weren't developed by some Liberal illuminati. The first countries to get these vaccines were the US under Trump and Israel under Netanyahu. Their admins granted the emergency approvals.
Trudeau advocates for vaccines, O'Toole advocates for vaccines. Almost any province is led by a Conservative Premier and all of them implemented mandates. DeSantis urges everyone to get vaccinated and even Trump went on stage during CPAC and told the crowd that everybody should get the jab and that it's totally unpainful.
Do children lose all their freedoms because they have to get multiple vaccines before they can go to school like in Ontario? Now we have Covid which is more deadly to older people and everyone freaks out when we impose the same mandates on them as we do on our children.
Today the problem is that everything has to be political. You can provide exemptions for the Covid vaccine for religious or medial reasons, but I would bet a lot of money on it that the majority of people who would claim a religious exemption for the Covid vaccine wouldn't know the difference between the bible and the LotR books and they would have absolutely no issues with vaccinating their family against measles or other diseases. It's not about religion or medical reasons. It's about that I think that I know it better and therefore I'm always right and fuck the other team. There has to be always an enemy. So people look at a graph, draw some lines and make their own conclusions. We can wait till December and see if the death rate will be the same or not. But if it will be lower (considerable lower), you won't make a post about how the vaccines are saving lives and then argue with the anti-vaxx crowd as you do with people here in this thread.