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http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/nuremberg/
The Nuremberg Code (1947).
Permissible Medical Experiments
The great weight of the evidence before us to effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally. The protagonists of the practice of human experimentation justify their views on the basis that such experiments yield results for the good of society that are unprocurable by other methods or means of study. All agree, however, that certain basic principles must be observed in order to satisfy moral, ethical and legal concepts:
The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.
The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results justify the performance of the experiment.
The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability or death.
The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/09/09/teenage-boys-risk-vaccines-covid/
Look who just discovered the Nuremberg argument, but once again hasn't read the docs to see what they actually say. Since the trials are over and both the mRNA vaccines are approved, it doesn't apply:
"The great weight of the evidence before us to effect that certain types of medical experiments on human beings, when kept within reasonably well-defined bounds, conform to the ethics of the medical profession generally."
NO LONG TERM DATA.
VACCINE MAKER REFUSES LIABILITY
Safety trials still ongoing
Study to Describe the Safety, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Efficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals
Sponsor: BioNTech SE.
Collaborator: Pfizer.
Information provided by (Responsible Party): BioNTech SE
First Submitted Date: April 27, 2020.
Estimated Primary Completion Date: February 8, 2024.
The final date for eligible statistics. The safety of the vaccines has already been acknowledged:
The Pfizer vaccination was approved on August 23 2021. https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/comirnaty-and-pfizer-biontech-covid-19-vaccine
The Moderna vaccination was approved on January 31 2022. https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-takes-key-action-approving-second-covid-19-vaccine
“Study to Describe the SAFETY, Tolerability, Immunogenicity, and Inefficacy of RNA Vaccine Candidates Against COVID-19 in Healthy Individuals Sponsor: BioNTech SE. Collaborator: Pfizer. Estimated Primary Completion Date: February 8, 2024.”
Study to "describe", not "determine". That's already been established.
FACT1: SHORT TERM SAFETY DATA DETERMINED 12 to 15yo boys have 600% more risk getting heart damage by getting vaccinated.
FACT 2: LONG TERM SAFETY STILL ONGOING UNTIL 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b5aW08ivHU
UNDISPUTED FACTS 👇:
Tuchodi is advocating a dangerous injection that has NO long term data, for which providing consent is therefore impossible
Short term data shows young boys a 600% higher risk of heart damage within a few weeks.
In March 2022, CDC quietly deleted and altered their covid statistics by removing data they had previously used to claim vaccination for children was worth the heart damage risk. CDC admit they reported erroneous pediatric statistics, saying the false data was a “coding error”.
On March 20 2020 there had been a quarter of a million known cases of covid. A year later there had been 123 million cases. Two years later (that is, last week) there had been 475 million cases. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-covid-cases-region
So it looks like it's possible everyone will get it eventually. Would you rather have the serious heart problems associated with covid, or the mild ones associated with the vaccines? It's your choice.
"we found no evidence of an increase in the risk of pericarditis or cardiac arrhythmias following vaccination, except in the 1–28 days following a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine. Second, in the same population, there was a greater risk of myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia following SARS-CoV-2 infection. Third, the increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination was higher in persons aged under 40 years. We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0
"Evidence so far on myocarditis associated with COVID-19 vaccination suggests that the incidence of cases remains low overall. Moreover, when it does occur, primarily in young males, studies show cases are usually mild and resolved quickly.
Experts continue to assure the overall risks of COVID-19 infection far outweigh the risks associated to developing myocarditis after a COVID-19 vaccination, even in young men." https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-myocarditis-explainer-idUSL1N2U72A8
"Rare heart inflammation cases (around one in 6000) were reported in teenagers after their COVID-19 vaccination. These cases have been mild and self-resolving. However, the chance of developing severe illness and death after a COVID-19 infection is much higher (2-10%). There is a higher risk of myocarditis from COVID itself than there is from the vaccine." https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/heart-inflammation-covid-19-and-the-rare-side-effects-of-the-vaccine/2021/09
"Also, mRNA COVID vaccines like those from Pfizer and Moderna have been linked with heart inflammation. But this is very rare, and you’re much more likely to get heart inflammation from COVID infection than the vaccines." https://theconversation.com/how-covid-affects-the-heart-according-to-a-cardiologist-165446
"COVID-19 infections are more likely to trigger rare cardiovascular complications such as heart inflammation and irregular heartbeat than vaccines," https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/heart-condition-risk-higher-after-covid-19-illness-than-vaccines-uk-study-2021-12-14/
Not one “study” you copy pasted STRATIFIES the myocarditis risk by AGE group. Lol
Hiding average age of 85yo in the hospitalization rate data and pretending the 16yo’s have the same risk is fraudulent. Typical of CDC tho.
HERE YA GO: STRATIFIED BY AGE,
Table 4 IRRs (95% CI) by age group 40 years or younger, and sex (male, female) for the outcomes in predefined risk periods immediately before and after exposure to vaccination and before and after a positive SARS-CoV-2 test result, adjusted for calendar time from 1 December 2020 to 24 August 2021
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0/tables/4.
The data is catastrophic Tuchodi. You are a sick, sick, sick woman.
If that was true you wouldn't be using a table from the first study I gave you.
And - as usual - you are linking to something that supports the use of vaccines. The table you're using supports their statements that "we found no evidence of an increase in the risk of pericarditis or cardiac arrhythmias following vaccination, except in the 1–28 days following a second dose of the mRNA-1273 vaccine. Second, in the same population, there was a greater risk of myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia following SARS-CoV-2 infection. Third, the increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination was higher in persons aged under 40 years. We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection."
There are different rates depending on age in both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated. What you are ignoring is that the rate of and severity of myocarditis is significantly higher in people who are infected with covid, and people who are unvaccinated suffer worse.
From the same paper, again: "We estimated extra myocarditis events to be between 1 and 10 per million persons in the month following vaccination, which was substantially lower than the 40 extra events per million persons observed following SARS-CoV-2 infection."
Experiment
to try something in order to discover what it is like or find out more about it:
We're not sure what the long term effects of the vaccine are
We're not sure how long protection lasts
We're not sure We're not sure
Hey I thought experimenting on humans without consent is illegal?
The vaccine doesn't do what it was advertised to do. It did not end covid. It did not end transmission. It did not provide lasting protection.
In fact I don't think it did much at all. You inject a bunch of people in the summer after the peak of a wave. Naturally without vaccination the wave would end, state that it was the vaccine that ended the wave. When new wave comes state that the vaccine doesn't provide lasting protection as an excuse for a new wave. Continuously jab people with boosters after the peak of each wave to keep the lie going that it works.
It's obvious, it's a lie, it doesn't work. It doesn't protect those who need it. Begging the question what do these jabs actually do if they don't stop this virus?
They reduce the level of care required. This means more people with "normal" healthcare requirements have a better chance of getting the care they need,
24 February 2022 "mRNA vaccines were found to be highly effective in preventing covid-19 associated hospital admissions related to the alpha, delta, and omicron variants, but three vaccine doses were required to achieve protection against omicron similar to the protection that two doses provided against the delta and alpha variants." https://www.bmj.com/content/376/bmj-2021-069761
March 2, 2022 "Primary immunization with two doses of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 or BNT162b2 vaccine provided limited protection against symptomatic disease caused by the omicron variant. A BNT162b2 or mRNA-1273 booster after either the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 or BNT162b2 primary course substantially increased protection" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2119451
How do you measure protection with a benign virus?
Got a link?
https://globalnews.ca/news/8636502/covid-omicron-death-south-korea-data/
Omicron variant’s severity and death rates averaged 0.38% and 0.18%, respectively, compared with 1.4% and 0.7% for the Delta cases.
Just to add those death rates are heavily skewed by deaths over 65.
The death rate under 40 is basically zero.
So people in South Korea are still getting sick and dying from the virus. A lower rate is good, for sure, but if the number of cases overall is going up enough you still have the same load on the healthcare system. Your article doesn't say how much the case count has increased, just that records are being broken: "The Omicron variant has led to a surge in cases — daily new infections topped a record 100,000 last week"
We're coming off a peak load on the system here in Canada and that's good. Restrictions are coming off but we're still in territory that is concerning. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data
People have always gotten sick and died.
Are you insane? Eliminating death is impossible.
You're completely lost. Hospitals are always full especially during flu season. None of this is new it's been happening for decades.
Do not, under any circumstances, go to this page and read about recent excess global mortality. https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
Do not fiddle with the graph to see how many extra people have died in Canada and the US since January 5 2020. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?country=CAN~USA
Having had a discussion with tuchodi.
This is punching down.