Lots of hyperbole here folks. People who had no problems are ignored, and the reports of minor issues, such as a phone call to Telehealth about a sore arm, are lumped in with the serious ones.
Of the "10 million-plus users" two thirds reported nothing at all. Of the one third who did report a reaction, the vast majority were of the aches and pains variety. Less than 3% of that one third were hospitalized.
That means that of the over 10 million people who were presumably vaccinated less than 0.75% needed hospital care, and some of them would have needed it for covid because - as we all know by now - the vaccines reduce the impact of the virus but they don't provide 100% immunity.
And those people in hospital went home, unlike the 1% of covid victims who die.
Concerning fatalities, the quoted rate was normal considering we're in a global pandemic (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), and so far there is still virtually nothing to link the vaccines to an accelerated mortality rate.
As for heart issues, they were so rare that they weren't detected in the trials. They were noticed eventually at a rate of less than 2 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccinations (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529)
And myocarditis fatalities were vanishingly rare. "Between December 14, 2020, and August 31, 2021, 192,405,448 individuals older than 12 years of age received a total of 354,100,845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines. ... Among persons younger than 30 years of age, there were no confirmed cases of myocarditis in those who died after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination without another identifiable cause and there was 1 probable case of myocarditis but there was insufficient information available for a thorough investigation. At the time of data review, there were 2 reports of death in persons younger than 30 years of age with potential myocarditis that remain under investigation and are not included in the case counts." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346
As for heart issues, they were so rare that they weren't detected in the trials. They were noticed eventually at a rate of less than 2 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccinations (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529)
Ontario's head doctor said 1 in 5000 or less will get myocarditis based on health Canada reports.
But the article i posted is refering to disclosure in court rather than hyperbole posted to websites that are in the business of making money from big pharma
Folks, the article is written by Greg Piper, a journalist with no medical background (https://justthenews.com/greg-piper), who appears to be purposely looking through the wrong end of the telescope. His own sources - the links in his article - show that damage from vaccines is very much less than damage from the virus but he skips over that entirely and just beats the drum about transitory side effects.
It's a living, I guess.
As your own link states: "the leading heart center at the Toronto General Hospital has performed “approximately 65 cardiac MRIs for suspected vaccine-associated myocarditis as of February 2022.” ... A small number considering 12.6 million Ontarians have been vaccinated to date."
Never mind that virtually everyone recovers from any myocarditis the vaccines may induce: 2022 Jul 28 "COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis: A Systemic Review and Literature Search" - "A thorough literature search was conducted in Cochrane library, PubMed, ScienceDirect, and Google Scholar for published literature till 30 March 2022. ... all the reported patients recovered and were discharged home" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/
What court case? No details there, but it provides a nice dog whistle for the conspiracy folks, doesn't it? For all we know it's just a routine 'access to information' request through normal channels.
attacking the messenger
Just pointing out he has no special expertise, so you can go to the documents he provides and read them yourself, because you're as qualified as he is.
And when you do you'll see he's ignoring the big picture and falling back on the "if it bleeds it leads" school of journalism in the hopes of making a buck.
You have looked at his links, I assume? And seen that less than 1% needed hospital care, there's no distinction between care for vaccine side-effects and treatment for covid, and there's no indication that anyone died?
Don't take my word for it folks. Look it up yourself. Number of deaths divided by number of cases. I'm using these sites but you're free to use your own:
ScoobyDoo is just trying to distract from the fact that if you test positive for covid there's an overall 1 in a hundred chance you'll die. If they've been doing any reading they'll argue about Case Fatality Rates / Infection Fatality Rates / Crude Mortality, Mortality by Age, and so forth.
Anything to draw attention away from the topic at hand, which is the rarity of serious myocarditis after vaccination.
Lots of hyperbole here folks. People who had no problems are ignored, and the reports of minor issues, such as a phone call to Telehealth about a sore arm, are lumped in with the serious ones.
Of the "10 million-plus users" two thirds reported nothing at all. Of the one third who did report a reaction, the vast majority were of the aches and pains variety. Less than 3% of that one third were hospitalized.
That means that of the over 10 million people who were presumably vaccinated less than 0.75% needed hospital care, and some of them would have needed it for covid because - as we all know by now - the vaccines reduce the impact of the virus but they don't provide 100% immunity.
And those people in hospital went home, unlike the 1% of covid victims who die.
Concerning fatalities, the quoted rate was normal considering we're in a global pandemic (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), and so far there is still virtually nothing to link the vaccines to an accelerated mortality rate.
As for heart issues, they were so rare that they weren't detected in the trials. They were noticed eventually at a rate of less than 2 cases of myocarditis per 100,000 vaccinations (https://www.cmaj.ca/content/194/45/E1529)
And myocarditis fatalities were vanishingly rare. "Between December 14, 2020, and August 31, 2021, 192,405,448 individuals older than 12 years of age received a total of 354,100,845 mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines. ... Among persons younger than 30 years of age, there were no confirmed cases of myocarditis in those who died after mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccination without another identifiable cause and there was 1 probable case of myocarditis but there was insufficient information available for a thorough investigation. At the time of data review, there were 2 reports of death in persons younger than 30 years of age with potential myocarditis that remain under investigation and are not included in the case counts." https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788346
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2022/07/15/dr-moore-covid-vaccine-ontario-myocarditis/
Ontario's head doctor said 1 in 5000 or less will get myocarditis based on health Canada reports.
But the article i posted is refering to disclosure in court rather than hyperbole posted to websites that are in the business of making money from big pharma
Folks, the article is written by Greg Piper, a journalist with no medical background (https://justthenews.com/greg-piper), who appears to be purposely looking through the wrong end of the telescope. His own sources - the links in his article - show that damage from vaccines is very much less than damage from the virus but he skips over that entirely and just beats the drum about transitory side effects.
It's a living, I guess.
As your own link states: "the leading heart center at the Toronto General Hospital has performed “approximately 65 cardiac MRIs for suspected vaccine-associated myocarditis as of February 2022.” ... A small number considering 12.6 million Ontarians have been vaccinated to date."
Never mind that virtually everyone recovers from any myocarditis the vaccines may induce: 2022 Jul 28 "COVID-19 Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis: A Systemic Review and Literature Search" - "A thorough literature search was conducted in Cochrane library, PubMed, ScienceDirect, and Google Scholar for published literature till 30 March 2022. ... all the reported patients recovered and were discharged home" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9419896/
The just the news article is coverage of a court case. Is the case not real?
Not sure what attacking the messenger does except to misinform the public by attempting to discredit the reporter somehow.
What court case? No details there, but it provides a nice dog whistle for the conspiracy folks, doesn't it? For all we know it's just a routine 'access to information' request through normal channels.
Just pointing out he has no special expertise, so you can go to the documents he provides and read them yourself, because you're as qualified as he is.
And when you do you'll see he's ignoring the big picture and falling back on the "if it bleeds it leads" school of journalism in the hopes of making a buck.
You have looked at his links, I assume? And seen that less than 1% needed hospital care, there's no distinction between care for vaccine side-effects and treatment for covid, and there's no indication that anyone died?
Geez. You resorted to posting egregious bullshit now?
Don't take my word for it folks. Look it up yourself. Number of deaths divided by number of cases. I'm using these sites but you're free to use your own:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/
Wrong. These charts are the death rates in confirmed cases. This is not the death rate from covid.
change the denominator and you’ll get a different ratio. You wanna debate basic math now?
ScoobyDoo is just trying to distract from the fact that if you test positive for covid there's an overall 1 in a hundred chance you'll die. If they've been doing any reading they'll argue about Case Fatality Rates / Infection Fatality Rates / Crude Mortality, Mortality by Age, and so forth.
Anything to draw attention away from the topic at hand, which is the rarity of serious myocarditis after vaccination.