Sunetra Gupta, May 21 2020, "the epidemic has largely come and is on its way out in UK" https://unherd.com/2020/05/oxford-doubles-down-sunetra-gupta-interview/
Death toll in the UK in May 2020: 36,000
Death toll in the UK today: 209,000
Jay Bhattacharya, May 24, 2020 "If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high." https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464
Global death toll May 2020: 390,000
Global death toll today: 6,800,000
Martin Kulldorff, December 17, 2021 ...children's "Covid mortality risk is miniscule and less than the already low risk from the annual influenza." https://brownstone.org/articles/vaccines-save-lives/
Pediatric deaths from influenza 2020-21: 1
Pediatric deaths from covid 2020-21 >500
I see you live in a world where only 100% is valued.
Good luck.
No one here ever claimed 100%. Only you. That’s how easily fooled you are.
It was your pseudo scientist TwoChodes who lied and claimed the vaccinated would not carry a respiratory virus. And you believed it TwoChodes.
You wouldn’t be this terminally defensive if the pharmaceutical product you were defending wasn’t such a failure. No one here is undecided, your propaganda failed. Everyone is refusing the Government Booster and believes it to be unsafe and ineffective.
There wouldn’t be 95% TRIPLE VAXED COVID INFECTIONS hospitalized with Severe Illness in the ICU presently if the mRNA experiment wasn’t a MASSIVE FAILURE.
YOU ARE A FAILED PROPAGANDIST.
But you’re our low IQ guinea pig.
You are yielding the long term mortality and injury data!
GET MURDERNA BOOSTED AGAIN TWOCHODES! Soon and often.
Yes folks, I fell for the 95%-100% efficacy lie folks.
I fell for the lie, me and my Bill Gates owned OurWorld Data folks.
Only me and my Bill Gates purchased biotechnology. Bill Gates purchased mRNA manufacturers (BioNTech and Moderna) but then dumped the biotech stock in 2021 when the vaccines were proven to be garbage and all the fully vaccinated were dying and world governments were trying to cancel their contracts.
I fell for the lie folks, only me and Bill Gates Fact Checkers. Bill Gates purchased censorship to delete any criticism of his World Health Organization and delete criticism of his purchased BioNTch and Moderna Vaccines
Folks, GLOBAL CONSENSUS FOLKS.!
hahahahahahaha!
Before mass mandating these things on the public? Yeah I think 100% is a good standard.
Too bad it was never achieved, despite repeated claims to the otherwise. The tyranny may have had limited lasting damage if that were the case
You see Canaderp,
I know my experts did lie and did claim 100% efficacy. But I have to play dumb, and keep lying to hide the facts.
They all lied. I know it. You know it.
And I will keep lying about it.
I got had. I am a massive fucking idiot. So lying is all I got now.
Show the folks a vaccine expert that says there's a vaccine that's 100% effective.
LOL Here we go round and round on the carousel
The Great Barrington Declaration holds the view that lockdowns do more harm than good. Nothing you wrote here supports your position that lockdowns are good.
You’ll have to try again.
TwoChodes did not read the Declaration .
TwoChodes worst nightmare is to allow anyone to actually read the Great Barrington Declaration.
Censorship and deleting facts is the only way for low IQ Vaccine Nazis. As well as using Marxist strategies to defend criminals.
I read it. I also read the "experts" incorrect assumptions.
She can read them too folks - they're right here in this thread.
I can confirm. I DID NOT read the Great Barrington Declaration. I googled a Bill Gates funded- factcheck instead.
The Gates factcheck told me that reading the Great Barrington Declaration was a threat to my democracy.
And the Bill Gates funded fact checkers also told me that the Bill Gates vaccines and the Gates World Health Organization are safe and effective folks.
Here folks, i will now support my Gates fact-checked opinion with Bill Gates OurWorld Data:
https://www.inet.ox.ac.uk/news/our-world-in-data-new-funding
Folks, global consensus folks!! DO NOT read the Great Barrington Declaration folks.!! My democracy is at stake.
It was never required to know those things
Ahem.
It's right in the post.
Jay Bhattacharya, May 24, 2020 "If it’s true that the novel coronavirus would kill millions without shelter-in-place orders and quarantines, then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified. But there’s little evidence to confirm that premise—and projections of the death toll could plausibly be orders of magnitude too high." https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464
He supported the use of those measures. He was just was wrong that they wouldn't be required.
Uhhh…
Here’s what you wrote:
I have to quote you due to your history of editing your comments after I destroy them.
Try to comprehend this line, especially:
Your supposed slam dunk debunk of this is to quote the current death toll.
This is a low intelligence response.
Quote the initial global death toll projections from May, 2020 and then the actual death toll. If the initial death toll is not orders of magnitude too high, then you have a slam dunk.
And I anticipate that you will claim that the projections were halted due in part to lockdowns. Sure, but this still doesn’t debunk The Great Barrington Declaration that holds the position that lockdowns for more harm than good.
Basically, this post is complete nonsense and is a biased opinion of a pro-lockdown extremist.
Just to inform you ScoobyDoo, you are debating with a brain dead sack of shit idiot.
I claimed the vaccine was 95% effective. I am that much of an IDIOT.
I know that natural immunity was 99.99% effective but I am so fat, so dumb and so old, I went ahead and injected myself with an experimental bio weapon made by Big Pharma.
Now I’m spending my last days on earth, defending Big Pharma. To my death.
I’m also choosing to spend my last days, denying facts that hurt my feeling as a fat old boomer. Yes I am old. I am obese. And that is why I am terrified of a 99.99% survival flu.
Anyone who points this out is a threat to my democracy and needs to be reported to authorities. YOU ARE NOW REPORTED TO AUTHORITIES SCOOBYDOO
You seem to be having trouble with the fact that the expert saw no evidence that the virus would kill millions, and based on that he went on in the Barrington Declaration. to criticize the response of the public health authorities.
Then the virus killed millions.
AND he acknowledged that if the virus was to kill millions "then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified."
What's your problem?
Hahaha! Classic. This whole entire post was based on a misunderstanding of basic English on your part. Classic Tuchodi, especially since you’ve been criticizing other people’s English lately.
I have to quote you once again, lest you edit this:
What you quoted doesn’t mean what you think it means. Read it again, carefully. If you still can’t figure it out, ask your mom.
Sure does. Surprised you can't see it.
Buddy agreed the measures would be correct if millions were dying.
And millions died.
Your mom couldn’t help you, eh?
I’ll help. I’ll rephrase the quote you posted with fewer words:
If early death projections were accurate, lockdowns would be justified. Death projections were over-estimated, so lockdowns were not justified.
Can she prove any of that folks?
Anything at all?
Just hot air so far.
Just for context: the expert saw no evidence that the virus would kill millions, and based on that he went on, in the Barrington Declaration, to criticize the response of the public health authorities.
Then the virus killed millions.
AND the expert had acknowledged that if the virus was to kill millions "then the extraordinary measures being carried out in cities and states around the country are surely justified."
We just go in circles. Because no one would accept your terms that those death numbers are accurate or even exclusive to covid not including co-morbs or things like car accidents or falling off ladders that got attributed to it.
And then we can talk about Bill Gates' and others influence on some of these "sources" how hospitals were given extra funding for inflating numbers how many were killed as a direct result of govt action - stuffing the sick into nursing homes while ignoring built emergency facilities (new york anyone?)
And then even though everything I have mentioned above has been posted multiple times in multiple places for the last 3 years you can say all these claims have no backing as if its the first time they have ever been mentioned.
Then I will tell you no amount of posting is going to get your wife back or make your son call you dad with any level of love and sincerity for the precious couple years left before something you did to him takes him.
Its just so tiresome. So lets skip all that and go right to my telling you to go back to reddit or at least have the balls to try this on /nonewnormal.
You used to post on /health. I wonder what happened...
Yeah Canaderp,
Do like me. I support my Bill Gates opinions with Bill Gates funded-fact checkers and with BillGates owned OurWorld Data. I also post VICE.com opinion pieces.
So support your opinions with Gate’s OurWorldData and Gates funded fact-checkers or you are literally a threat to my democracy and I will report you to BILL C- 11 authorities for making this an unsafe platform
Go get yourself some numbers, then we'll talk.
Unsupported opinions feel good, but they don't carry any weight.