The problem with this abstract is that percentages are misleading and secondly it only measures excess deaths during the pandemic. It does not compare the continuing high excess rates in all vaxxed populations with the Amish
So to elaborate:
Percentages - if you have 1 death and then you have 3, you can be an alarmist and note that the death rate is up by 300 percent. Big spikes like that are easy when the starting number is very low. The Amish are generally healthier due to lifestyle and so their death rate is lower to begin with. Any spike will seem impressive.
Mirroring General Population - the compares the Amish population to the general (presumably vaxxed population) with spikes in excess deaths and notes a corresponding rise and fall.
Presumably you think this means that the vaxx is not dangerous because the death rates are the same.
But - in fact it seems to indicate that the vaxx is useless. If the vaxx offered protection against covid, then the death rate should not just mirror that of the general population, but instead should be higher. The fact that they are comparable means that being unvaxxed does not expose the unvaxxed to any greater risk to covid.
Does it then establish that the vaxx is safe because the excess mortality rate is similar? No, because the comparison period is abbreviated. It compares mortality during the covid epidemic. It does not compare the excess mortality rate afterwards. Do the vaxxed die in greater number now, four years on. The study does not address this. So it cannot be used to support the argument that tuchi seems to be making.
The problem with Kinder12 is that she didn't read the paper she's attempting to criticize.
If she had done so she would not be talking about vaxxed vs unvaxxed because the comparison was based on the six years from "2015 through January 2021".
This is prior to the arrival of the vaccines, and has nothing to do with their effectiveness.
You must be reading a tuchidioty alternate version of this abstract. It clearly attempts to make a link to vaccinations. Hence why it emphasizes, in the abstract, : "results indicate that the timing of the onset and decline of spikes of excess death rates among the Amish/Mennonites are similar to waves of COVID-19 reported in the United States"
It clearly attempts to make a link to vaccinations
Nope. It's right there in the posted abstract folks: "We use obituary information published in an Amish/Mennonite newspaper to examine excess death among the Amish/Mennonites in 2020".
The paper compares Amish death rates in 2015 to 2019 to those in 2020, after the arrival of the virus. Covid vaccines were not available in that time period.
Attempting to claim the paper has anything to do with covid vaccination is odd, if not misleading.
Again, silly, they make a point of saying that Amish excess deaths mirror the ups and downs of excess deaths of the unvaccinated population. And that is why you posted it. Otherwise neither you or anyone else would care.
The problem with this abstract is that percentages are misleading and secondly it only measures excess deaths during the pandemic. It does not compare the continuing high excess rates in all vaxxed populations with the Amish
So to elaborate:
Percentages - if you have 1 death and then you have 3, you can be an alarmist and note that the death rate is up by 300 percent. Big spikes like that are easy when the starting number is very low. The Amish are generally healthier due to lifestyle and so their death rate is lower to begin with. Any spike will seem impressive.
Mirroring General Population - the compares the Amish population to the general (presumably vaxxed population) with spikes in excess deaths and notes a corresponding rise and fall.
Presumably you think this means that the vaxx is not dangerous because the death rates are the same.
But - in fact it seems to indicate that the vaxx is useless. If the vaxx offered protection against covid, then the death rate should not just mirror that of the general population, but instead should be higher. The fact that they are comparable means that being unvaxxed does not expose the unvaxxed to any greater risk to covid.
Does it then establish that the vaxx is safe because the excess mortality rate is similar? No, because the comparison period is abbreviated. It compares mortality during the covid epidemic. It does not compare the excess mortality rate afterwards. Do the vaxxed die in greater number now, four years on. The study does not address this. So it cannot be used to support the argument that tuchi seems to be making.
The problem with Kinder12 is that she didn't read the paper she's attempting to criticize.
If she had done so she would not be talking about vaxxed vs unvaxxed because the comparison was based on the six years from "2015 through January 2021".
This is prior to the arrival of the vaccines, and has nothing to do with their effectiveness.
You must be reading a tuchidioty alternate version of this abstract. It clearly attempts to make a link to vaccinations. Hence why it emphasizes, in the abstract, : "results indicate that the timing of the onset and decline of spikes of excess death rates among the Amish/Mennonites are similar to waves of COVID-19 reported in the United States"
Nope. It's right there in the posted abstract folks: "We use obituary information published in an Amish/Mennonite newspaper to examine excess death among the Amish/Mennonites in 2020".
The paper compares Amish death rates in 2015 to 2019 to those in 2020, after the arrival of the virus. Covid vaccines were not available in that time period.
Attempting to claim the paper has anything to do with covid vaccination is odd, if not misleading.
Again, silly, they make a point of saying that Amish excess deaths mirror the ups and downs of excess deaths of the unvaccinated population. And that is why you posted it. Otherwise neither you or anyone else would care.